Gods of Norse Kickstarter

[Strag]

EBs available now

Backed one of his previous campagins. Not this one I don't think.

[PiazzaDelivery]

I'm torn. Beautiful courts, but the rest is the worst parts of Riffle Shuffle. 50/50 atm.

[TheGentlemanWake]

Nice design. The interior tuck art is baffling. Such a beautiful display but on the inside of the tuck? There should be an alternate tuck with that wraparound design.

[STLBluesNut]

well, i am in for one these look pretty amazing!

so how is this guy able to do a deck like this for $14? fully custom. matte stock. embossing. 2 foils inside and outside of the tuck. beautiful design for the tuck interior, which i agree should have been maybe an alternate version or for the second tuck. shame to hide that. with all of the price increases, inflation, pandemic, shipping, now war how is it $14 with all of these reasons others point to as the reasons why their decks are so expensive?

[GandalfPC]

Kickstarter giving me fits this morning so I can’t check out who he’s printing them with but I did manage to pull up his profile - he has other business so this doesn't need to pay his bills, he is a young guy making his second kickstarter deck and certainly appears to be cutting the profits down very low - something that only his love for making the cards and hopes for a better future profit make feasible - best I can figure

[RandyButterfield]

well, i am in for one these look pretty amazing!

so how is this guy able to do a deck like this for $14? fully custom. matte stock. embossing. 2 foils inside and outside of the tuck. beautiful design for the tuck interior, which i agree should have been maybe an alternate version or for the second tuck. shame to hide that. with all of the price increases, inflation, pandemic, shipping, now war how is it $14 with all of these reasons others point to as the reasons why their decks are so expensive?

Because it’s not $14.

When you add in the $6 U.S. shipping, 1 Deck is actually $20.
A lot of creators, including myself, incorporate that $6 shipping within the pledge tier pricing.

This guy’s just doing the opposite - same final result.

Thanks, Randy

[STLBluesNut]

yeah, i dont take shipping into account. included shipping used to be a bigger thing, 95%, or more, of campaigns do not include shipping.

current project examples
woman cards $15 no features
wonder cards $17 foil and embossing
divine relics $17 no features

i just find it interesting how some projects cost the same or significantly more than others with same or less features.

[RandyButterfield]

yeah, i dont take shipping into account. included shipping used to be a bigger thing, 95%, or more, of campaigns do not include shipping.

current project examples
woman cards $15 no features
wonder cards $17 foil and embossing
divine relics $17 no features

i just find it interesting how some projects cost the same or significantly more than others with same or less features.

The shortest, most logical, answer is - people will charge as much as they think people will pay for their product. It’s that way with everything in retail.

Thanks, Randy

[Timmargh]

I think I quite like these and I am in for a single deck.

I reserve the right to change my mind at a later date, though, which I probably will.

[Strag]

I always consider shipping cost when considering a puchase, it's the life of an international collector. I've decided to be in for now but will evaluate later.

[veil]

Being associated in some fashion with Riffle Shuffle is probably helping to keep costs down.

[james001a]

I reserve the right to change my mind at a later date, though, which I probably will.

That is so funny. Well said!

[TheGentlemanWake]

yeah, i dont take shipping into account. included shipping used to be a bigger thing, 95%, or more, of campaigns do not include shipping.

current project examples
woman cards $15 no features
wonder cards $17 foil and embossing
divine relics $17 no features

i just find it interesting how some projects cost the same or significantly more than others with same or less features.

Everyone has different business models. I think sometimes creators with less experience make assumptions about costs that end up being incorrect--sometimes a shock to the system incorrect. Just recently witnessed that with Gakondo Playing Cards. Their KS campaign (admittedly a modest one) recently had to announce a change in printer because Cartamundi wouldn't honor a previous quote--presumably because prices and production costs have gone up. To be fair, Cartamundi puts an expiration in the fine print of every quote--seems like Gakondo didn't see it. In the case of Wonder... it's the fourth campaign they've run. I wonder if they haven't accounted for the increase in production and are going off of old numbers based on what they are used to paying. This is a mistake I ALMOST made with Tempest. Assuming the prices hadn't changed much since a year and half prior on Parlour. It almost cost me dearly. I was able to catch it and make adjustments to the pricing.

The shortest, most logical, answer is - people will charge as much as they think people will pay for their product. It’s that way with everything in retail.

Thanks, Randy

Yeah, I think this is true to an extent. Ultimately the producer can set any price they want knowing full well that they are undertaking all of the risk if it doesn't fund or sell. I think as creators you want to set the price point as low as possible to attract as many customers BUT also protect the margins and make sure you stay profitable. What's interesting is the perception that because a deck has more bells and whistles that it's somehow more profitable. Decks with no features also cost less to produce and have better margins typically than something much more expensive to produce. Their are so many nuances to this business.

[TheGentlemanWake]

well, i am in for one these look pretty amazing!

so how is this guy able to do a deck like this for $14? fully custom. matte stock. embossing. 2 foils inside and outside of the tuck. beautiful design for the tuck interior, which i agree should have been maybe an alternate version or for the second tuck. shame to hide that. with all of the price increases, inflation, pandemic, shipping, now war how is it $14 with all of these reasons others point to as the reasons why their decks are so expensive?

Because it’s not $14.

When you add in the $6 U.S. shipping, 1 Deck is actually $20.
A lot of creators, including myself, incorporate that $6 shipping within the pledge tier pricing.

This guy’s just doing the opposite - same final result.

Thanks, Randy

i do this aswell.

Successor standard editions will be priced at $19. With 5 foil exterior/1 foil interior, debossed and 3d embossed tuck cases on premium stock.

[shermjack]

[Successor standard editions will be priced at $19. With 5 foil exterior/1 foil interior, debossed and 3d embossed tuck cases on premium stock.

Will there also be a players edition or will this be the cheapest deck in the campaign?

[GandalfTheWhite]

...I can’t check out who he’s printing them with but I did manage to pull up his profile...

From the KS page it says "Taiwan Playing Card Company with their Luxury Paper Stock ". I had backed his previous Gods of Egypt and I'm a happy customer. I've checked his personal Instagram and other design and seems like a brilliant artist. I'm in for one too.. the purple edition.

[TheGentlemanWake]

[Successor standard editions will be priced at $19. With 5 foil exterior/1 foil interior, debossed and 3d embossed tuck cases on premium stock.

Will there also be a players edition or will this be the cheapest deck in the campaign?

Just like tempest. No cheaper edition planned. Unless we have a great funding surge and find ourselves giving back with a deck like we did with the Wylenti edition.

[laitostarr777]

I hope I get to learn the deities in Norse mythology from these decks - I am not much fed with knowledge about this one XD
As for the decks, expect it to looked like the Gods of Egypt decks

"Successor standard editions will be priced at $19. With 5 foil exterior/1 foil interior, debossed and 3d embossed tuck cases on premium stock."

At least there are good features on the deck that well priced the decks - unlike.... those hype brands that let the "cult" do the work.

[vasta41]

I loved the Gods of Egypt decks, even though they're more of the same RS style. So I'm in for these as well, even though the prices are going up. Not anyone's fault, just the way the world is now (almost had to hand over my 1st born to fill my tank yesterday). I guess I'm just going to have to be more selective when buying playing cards nowadays.
Also, as a non-deck-opener (a.k.a. a tuckist) I never understood why any creator would spend extra money to bling out the inside of a box. I get that all other aspects of custom playing cards are blinged out so why not but it still seems like an ultimate waste to me. Clearly I'm in a minority, just my 2 cents.

[Strag]

BUt that's a great case for Uncut tucks of which I have a small, but growing collection of. I saw that Gio has recently started offering them for purchase but at €24ea or €40 for the pair I can't have it make sense for me.

[laitostarr777]

Also, as a non-deck-opener (a.k.a. a tuckist) I never understood why any creator would spend extra money to bling out the inside of a box. I get that all other aspects of custom playing cards are blinged out so why not but it still seems like an ultimate waste to me. Clearly I'm in a minority, just my 2 cents.

This though
I keep question what is on RIffle Shiffle mind hahaha: why having beautiful artworks in the interior side of the tuckbox, especially if the artwork is a landscape art, then HARDLY Never have it as an add-on - unflap tuckbox addon to frame and view it many times.
Last time on Gods of Egypt, its good Dhamas reached out to us and offer unflap tuck addons. The rest of RS Kickstarter decks…. Meh…

[Timmargh]

I reserve the right to change my mind at a later date, though, which I probably will.

That is so funny. Well said!

I have come back to this campaign several times in the last few days and, to be honest, I am inclined to keep my pledge. I showed it to my non-collecting brother and he literally said: "They are great. You are an idiot if you don't buy them."

So, there it is.

[Harvonsgard]

Glad to be a happy idiot. It's not like they have one thing that differentiates them from any other RS release.
Gold on purple always looks good so, there is that at least.

[GandalfTheWhite]

Yeah, of course I like the tuck and the court artwork but thing pushed me to pledge one is the gold on purple colorway

[laitostarr777]

I showed it to my non-collecting brother and he literally said: "They are great. You are an idiot if you don't buy them."

So, there it is.

Your brother has a point XD

Also, me liking this and Gods of Egypt is because the designer is from my country, and definitely will always support. Call it bias if ya will, but you can’t deny good artwork

[Timmargh]

[…] Gold on purple always looks good so, there is that at least.

[…] [the] thing pushed me to pledge one is the gold on purple colorway

I’m very much in the “green tuck“ camp.

[Harvonsgard]

That's the beauty of multiple colour editions. Everyone gets something nice.

[STLBluesNut]

Yeah, of course I like the tuck and the court artwork but thing pushed me to pledge one is the gold on purple colorway

I have started getting only one deck in campaigns like this when the only difference is the colors. Purple and gold it will be.

[Strag]

There are now 3 decks in this campaign, each of which has 2 gilded versions for a total of 9 variants. I had pledged but out now, I just don't like all these gilded variants. Yeah I know I don't have to buy them all but...

[james001a]

I was in, but got out too Strag. I really thought it was ridiculous that for their final stretch deck they allowed a 3 deck max for a limited edition of 99. C'mon, really? I dropped at that point.