Dance of death

[rousselle]

I like these images.

So, any chance you'll try to have these printed by USPCC or LPCC or Cartamundi? Any at all?

[RichK]

Pips look great with the background and current alignment.

Images that connect very nice too.

[SerKoN]

Pips look great with the background and current alignment.

Images that connect very nice too.

Thank you very much for the positive evaluation.

[SerKoN]

I like these images.

So, any chance you'll try to have these printed by USPCC or LPCC or Cartamundi? Any at all?

We are studying this question, but everything will be clear after the cards are released on Kickstarter.

[SerKoN]

final version of digital maps.

[SerKoN]

small cards

[SergeyDahkov]

small cards

good cards. I like. Watching divided the number and pips. It looks even better.

[PipChick]

yo 'SergeyDahkov' and 'SerKoN' - are y'all the same person?!? Maybe there's just a glitch in the matrix but inquiring minds need to know

[SerKoN]

yo 'SergeyDahkov' and 'SerKoN' - are y'all the same person?!? Maybe there's just a glitch in the matrix but inquiring minds need to know

Not exactly, but you have a grain of truth. Support from a friend)))

[SergeyDahkov]

yo 'SergeyDahkov' and 'SerKoN' - are y'all the same person?!? Maybe there's just a glitch in the matrix but inquiring minds need to know

sorry if you are offended, then I morally supported my friend. I believed that there is nothing shameful.

[SerKoN]

high cards of peak

[SerKoN]

on blue background

[PipChick]

Not exactly, but you have a grain of truth. Support from a friend)))

sorry if you are offended, then I morally supported my friend. I believed that there is nothing shameful.

hey now, dude(s), my comment wasn't made to insinuate offense nor that there's anything for you(s) to be ashamed of... I was just simply asking, which I don't think is so outrageously irrational considering y'all popped up around here at the same time, both claim to be developing this deck, post in similar manners and just so happen to also have registered under super similar usernames...

It all just seems...





and I'm definitely not the only one around here to notice... just sayin'

Anyways, carry on I suppose...

[theCapraAegagrus]

Not exactly, but you have a grain of truth. Support from a friend)))

sorry if you are offended, then I morally supported my friend. I believed that there is nothing shameful.

hey now, dude(s), my comment wasn't made to insinuate offense nor that there's anything for you(s) to be ashamed of... I was just simply asking, which I don't think is so outrageously irrational considering y'all popped up around here at the same time, both claim to be developing this deck, post in similar manners and just so happen to also have registered under super similar usernames...

It all just seems...





and I'm definitely not the only one around here to notice... just sayin'

Anyways, carry on I suppose...

If the artwork wasn't so good, I would be suspicious of that super-security team who makes threats and phishes... The artwork is leaps and bounds superior to anything they could ever dream of, though.

[PipChick]

The artwork is leaps and bounds superior to anything they could ever dream of, though.

very true; it's quite an interesting concept and I'm eagerly curious to see how all the cards and the scenes portrayed on each fit together into the larger illustration

[rousselle]

In concept, I'm reminded (in a good way) of the Pipmen World deck, which remains one of my favorite art decks. This takes Uusi's diptych concept to it's ultimate conclusion, which is great.

Artistically, this deck is completely different from Pipmen World, which makes it that much more exciting. This style really works, and I appreciate that the artist/artists are seeking out constructive suggestions from fellow playing card enthusiasts.

My concern remains the printing house. Pipmen World ended up being printed by two different printers, and the "Full World" deck was printed by a short-run press (I think it was MPC) on a matte finish that just... sucked. The cards were unpleasant to handle and just... yeah. So, they stay in the box and never see the light of day. Likewise, some other fantastic art decks that I really would like to play with more often were printed by NPCC, which does great work with regard to color and registration -- I mean, truly, the print work is excellent -- and have great card stock, which bodes well for their longevity, but the finish is unpleasant and the handling is clumpy and awful.

So, I am really liking the way this deck is shaping up artistically. The same is true of almost all of the other decks NPCC has produced; they really do have an eye for finding great deck designers and bringing their designs to life. But, until they develop/find/steal a better formula for their finish and make cards that are pleasant to handle, I am very reticent to back a project that they are manufacturing. (I still do, from time to time, because I'm such a sucker for good art, but I'd probably back 100% of their projects if their finish was better.)

Which is all by way of saying, if y'all are going to have these manufactured with a decent finish from one of the proven printers -- and, assuming the price fits within my budget, of course -- I'm going to snap these up. But, you guys are in Ukraine, and most Ukrainian artists are going with NPCC these days. If that's your plan, that would be unfortunate.

Unless, as I say, you can convince Roman and his crew to pursue better varnish/finish.

[SerKoN]

Thanks for the answer. We really think about this issue. The moment is important for us that the cards are executed well, but the printing house will ruin everything. For this, no less than your experience because of this. And carefully study the issue of printing. I will not dissemble, we test local printing houses, including price and Romana.
We plan to launch through Germany so that the approximate price with delivery is € 14-17; $ 16-19

[SerKoN]

Not exactly, but you have a grain of truth. Support from a friend)))

sorry if you are offended, then I morally supported my friend. I believed that there is nothing shameful.

hey now, dude(s), my comment wasn't made to insinuate offense nor that there's anything for you(s) to be ashamed of... I was just simply asking, which I don't think is so outrageously irrational considering y'all popped up around here at the same time, both claim to be developing this deck, post in similar manners and just so happen to also have registered under super similar usernames...

It all just seems...





and I'm definitely not the only one around here to notice... just sayin'

Thank you all. It remains to finish the shirt and box. And then it will be possible to submit our idea to the general review. I think that we will be able to surprise you a little with an interesting idea.

Anyways, carry on I suppose...

If the artwork wasn't so good, I would be suspicious of that super-security team who makes threats and phishes... The artwork is leaps and bounds superior to anything they could ever dream of, though.

Thank you all. It remains to finish the shirt and box. And then it will be possible to submit our idea to the general review. I think that we will be able to surprise you a little with an interesting idea.

[SerKoN]

In concept, I'm reminded (in a good way) of the Pipmen World deck, which remains one of my favorite art decks. This takes Uusi's diptych concept to it's ultimate conclusion, which is great.

Artistically, this deck is completely different from Pipmen World, which makes it that much more exciting. This style really works, and I appreciate that the artist/artists are seeking out constructive suggestions from fellow playing card enthusiasts.

My concern remains the printing house. Pipmen World ended up being printed by two different printers, and the "Full World" deck was printed by a short-run press (I think it was MPC) on a matte finish that just... sucked. The cards were unpleasant to handle and just... yeah. So, they stay in the box and never see the light of day. Likewise, some other fantastic art decks that I really would like to play with more often were printed by NPCC, which does great work with regard to color and registration -- I mean, truly, the print work is excellent -- and have great card stock, which bodes well for their longevity, but the finish is unpleasant and the handling is clumpy and awful.

So, I am really liking the way this deck is shaping up artistically. The same is true of almost all of the other decks NPCC has produced; they really do have an eye for finding great deck designers and bringing their designs to life. But, until they develop/find/steal a better formula for their finish and make cards that are pleasant to handle, I am very reticent to back a project that they are manufacturing. (I still do, from time to time, because I'm such a sucker for good art, but I'd probably back 100% of their projects if their finish was better.)

Which is all by way of saying, if y'all are going to have these manufactured with a decent finish from one of the proven printers -- and, assuming the price fits within my budget, of course -- I'm going to snap these up. But, you guys are in Ukraine, and most Ukrainian artists are going with NPCC these days. If that's your plan, that would be unfortunate.

Unless, as I say, you can convince Roman and his crew to pursue better varnish/finish.

We are offered to print on paper: "Casino Classic" as for prof. Cards, we use a protective film. Advise on which type of paper is better to use to maintain the quality of the picture. And its durability.

[SerKoN]

indexes on high maps

[SerKoN]

Criticize if you see any flaws, it is important for us now while you can fix it.

[JuFiN]

Use Cartamundi to print they are in Belgium right next to Germany after all! Their B9 finish card stock is top tier.

[SerKoN]

Use Cartamundi to print they are in Belgium right next to Germany after all! Their B9 finish card stock is top tier.

Thank you, we study their conditions.

[macstrat]

The more I see the more I'm liking these! I second Cartamundi.

[SerKoN]

The more I see the more I'm liking these! I second Cartamundi.

Thank you very much! For me it is important to understand that the cards we are working on like. So efforts are not in vain !!!

[RichK]

Criticize if you see any flaws, it is important for us now while you can fix it.

Like the chain linking the cards. You might want the right side suit be KoD to "link" with the AoD to it's left (center card). Looks like the skeleton is pushing the King to the Ace.

[SergeyDahkov]

Criticize if you see any flaws, it is important for us now while you can fix it.

Like the chain linking the cards. You might want the right side suit be KoD to "link" with the AoD to it's left (center card). Looks like the skeleton is pushing the King to the Ace.

The idea is that the aces fold the king, betray their suit and choose another. In general for treason.

[Eric Lee]

So will this be 1 giant picture like Pipmen world or several pictures ? The courts don't seem to form 1 standard pic according to suit but are each of them seem to be part of different pictures. This design is looking very interesting.

[SerKoN]

So will this be 1 giant picture like Pipmen world or several pictures ? The courts don't seem to form 1 standard pic according to suit but are each of them seem to be part of different pictures. This design is looking very interesting.

Yes, it will be a general picture. This style is called: "landscape and genre scenes." This style of work was popular in the XVI century. One of the famous artists of the time was Peter Breugel the Elder.
As the basis of our works, the ideas of a no less famous artist and engraving of the time and his works were taken over the maps: "The great death dance of Hans Holbein" One has underlined characters for our cards from another artistic style: "landscape and genre scenes"

[SerKoN]

As for our work, here is the first part of it. Provide for your judgment. Reasonable criticism will be glad!