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Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:21 am
by kevork
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:36 am
by wonderfulfacts
No thanks
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:57 am
by Evilgamer
you know I at least find their usual artwork interesting..this not so much.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:17 pm
by DeepCard
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:43 pm
by GandalfPC
They do have enough of an honest reveal at the bottom - though honestly I would never buy such a conversion from stock art, the bar here is honesty.
So, I hope that he had this up from the get go, and not newly added once spotted…
If it was always there, then the leopard has changed his spots finally.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 2:13 am
by wonderfulfacts
DeepCard wrote: ↑Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:17 pm
people just don't change
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Oh my God - they stole AGAIN?!
You are wrong.
Look at Gandalf's post.
You rushed to do some online image search but forgot to research the project itself properly.
You are doing your own credibility a disservice with a post like this, providing screenshot 'evidence' that Hòa Phan has yet again stolen his artwork. You should have spent a couple more minutes on the project page and you would have seen that they declared this fair use of third party artwork right from the start.
Now, you may not be a fan of this approach, but that does not mean that you should do posts like this, leaving others assuming something that it is not.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 2:21 am
by Disenchanted_11
Now they did something that vibes with me, but 666 is hard to beat so I'll pass.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 2:11 am
by kevork
Previous project funded on July 15th, and they already have a holographic edition slated. "all the devils are here" reminds me of the adage "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
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Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:35 am
by Disenchanted_11
Have you guys seen the holo-foiled version? Damn those are hypnotizing.
Disclaimer, I'm a sucker for anything that's holo-foiled.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:36 am
by kevork
Disenchanted_11 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:35 am
Have you guys seen the holo-foiled version? Damn those are hypnotizing.
Disclaimer, I'm a sucker for anything that's holo-foiled.
I tend to shy away from black cards on white stock, but regardless I avoid Hoa Phan like the plague, no pun intended.
In all seriousness, if holo foil is done right, I'm all for it. Most of the time, it looks too tacky for me.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:49 am
by Disenchanted_11
Yeah I am mustering all self-restraint to avoid backing, not purely out of prejudice to the creator, but just avoiding new decks in general.
Manufactured by Unicool Games and MPC, maybe the stock will be disappointing.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:59 am
by Disenchanted_11
Come to think of it, whatever happened to 666 Reverse Holo Dark Reserve?
The latest variants, Holographite & Obsidian never showed up on retail either. I backed out of the project due to it being the first to be printed by WJPC and bought an older Cartamundi version instead.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 11:22 am
by felicityk
Where most mailing lists have an Unsubscribe link at the bottom of the email, his say: "You've received this email because you have supported our campaigns on Kickstarter so far. Sorry for any inconvenience caused."
I requested to be unsubscribed. We'll see what happens.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:16 pm
by GandalfPC
Disenchanted_11 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:59 am
Come to think of it, whatever happened to 666 Reverse Holo Dark Reserve?
The latest variants, Holographite & Obsidian never showed up on retail either. I backed out of the project due to it being the first to be printed by WJPC and bought an older Cartamundi version instead.
They have showed up on ebay and appear sold out at 52kards (or is that not “reverse” ?)
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 2:45 pm
by kevork
felicityk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 04, 2025 11:22 am
Where most mailing lists have an Unsubscribe link at the bottom of the email, his say: "You've received this email because you have supported our campaigns on Kickstarter so far. Sorry for any inconvenience caused."
I requested to be unsubscribed. We'll see what happens.
I believe this is illegal in many countries.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 5:30 pm
by Disenchanted_11
GandalfPC wrote: ↑Mon Aug 04, 2025 12:16 pm
Disenchanted_11 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:59 am
Come to think of it, whatever happened to 666 Reverse Holo Dark Reserve?
The latest variants, Holographite & Obsidian never showed up on retail either. I backed out of the project due to it being the first to be printed by WJPC and bought an older Cartamundi version instead.
They have showed up on ebay and appear sold out at 52kards (or is that not “reverse” ?)
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Yeah but couldn't find them on common retailers, even the main variants of fhat campaign. Weird.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:30 pm
by felicityk
kevork wrote: ↑Mon Aug 04, 2025 2:45 pm
felicityk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 04, 2025 11:22 am
Where most mailing lists have an Unsubscribe link at the bottom of the email, his say: "You've received this email because you have supported our campaigns on Kickstarter so far. Sorry for any inconvenience caused."
I requested to be unsubscribed. We'll see what happens.
I believe this is illegal in many countries.
Sometimes I think it would be nice to live in one of those countries... but the US is not among them.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 6:03 pm
by kevork
felicityk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:30 pm
Sometimes I think it would be nice to live in one of those countries... but the US is not among them.
I had googled about the US right before I posted my comment.
I don't know how effectively the FTC enforces the mandate, but apparently the CAN-SPAM Act, appropriately named, requires an unsubscribe link for all commercial emails. You can be penalized if you don't.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2026 6:40 am
by mardem1976
So I backed the holo version, which after a long delay has been revealed not to be holo.
“We received the BD deck recently, and all are very good. Just the "issue" showed that the holo effect on the cards was less, achieving only 15% of the holo effect.
The manufacturer explained this as being due to the differences between cold printing and hot stamping techniques.“
Yeah, that’s not “15%,” it’s just not holo. I asked for a refund. We’ll see how that goes.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2026 7:51 am
by Evilgamer
15% of what? yes that sounds like a pretty lame excuse.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2026 5:41 pm
by Disenchanted_11
I would've only backed it because the holo looks cool.
I backed The Vintage, only to ask if there is any foiling on the cards, which they answered no. Which I think is not common to have gilding but not foiling. I think they just don't have the foiling capability at their manufacturer.
I'm thinking of cancelling.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2026 6:58 pm
by Evilgamer
Disenchanted_11 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 08, 2026 5:41 pm
I would've only backed it because the holo looks cool.
I backed The Vintage, only to ask if there is any foiling on the cards, which they answered no. Which I think is not common to have gilding but not foiling. I think they just don't have the foiling capability at their manufacturer.
I'm thinking of cancelling.
Its pretty common, I see a lot of gilded decks that are just inks on the faces/backs.
Very different processes, foil is printed, gilding is a post printing operation.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2026 8:53 pm
by laitostarr777
And that is why it is IMPORTANT to have a prototype… he never learns :/
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2026 9:35 pm
by Evilgamer
laitostarr777 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 08, 2026 8:53 pm
And that is why it is IMPORTANT to have a prototype… he never learns :/
Id bet the percentage of producers who have prototypes for kickstarters is pretty low, especially now with all the image generation tools.
the flip side is when they use actual production samples and people get mad at them for not really needing the kickstarter because the print run already started/happened.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2026 10:05 pm
by DeepCard
mardem1976 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 08, 2026 6:40 am
So I backed the holo version, which after a long delay has been revealed not to be holo.
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“We received the BD deck recently, and all are very good. Just the "issue" showed that the holo effect on the cards was less, achieving only 15% of the holo effect.
The manufacturer explained this as being due to the differences between cold printing and hot stamping techniques.“
Yeah, that’s not “15%,” it’s just not holo. I asked for a refund. We’ll see how that goes.
I don't want to blame the victim, but I've always said: NEVER SUPPORT any of Hòa Phan's projects. They lie, they delay delivery, they fail to fulfill promises, they steal art from others without permission, they use AI while pretending it's hand-drawn, and now one of their latest scams involves faking holographic effects.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2026 10:08 pm
by mardem1976
DeepCard wrote: ↑Thu Jan 08, 2026 10:05 pm
I don't want to blame the victim, but I've always said: NEVER SUPPORT any of Hòa Phan's projects. They lie, they delay delivery, they fail to fulfill promises, they steal art from others without permission, they use AI while pretending it's hand-drawn, and now one of their latest scams involves faking holographic effects.
Yeah, I know. I was just getting into this scene last summer, so I didn’t know much about the different artists and what their reputations were. You live you learn.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2026 12:36 am
by Disenchanted_11
DeepCard wrote: ↑Thu Jan 08, 2026 10:05 pm
They lie, they delay delivery, they fail to fulfill promises, they steal art from others without permission, they use AI while pretending it's hand-drawn, and now one of their latest scams involves faking holographic effects.
Let's be fair, most of these are just general issues that happens with almost any creator out there.
Honestly though, I only ever discover their projects when it is posted here, mostly with mocking remarks. And sometimes I get attracted too. Any publicity is good publicity.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2026 12:40 am
by kevork
I can stop posting them if the community wants me to.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2026 2:06 am
by laitostarr777
Well, maybe
In my opinion, it's best we pretend that TPCC never exist, so that newbies won't fall into the same encounter we had.
And, I can probably guess, TPCC only stands because of the same people who keeps returning to their campaigns over and over.
Re: Black Death by Hòa Phan
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2026 10:25 am
by felicityk
kevork wrote: ↑Fri Jan 09, 2026 12:40 am
I can stop posting them if the community wants me to.
That feels like a good solution to me.