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thank goodness someone finally designed a deck for human being
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Hòa Phan releasing a deck about virtues is pretty rich.
Let's elevate your card game and your collection with iVirtues (iV Virtues)
Just, wow.
! There may be a slight change in the deck's design to ensure the best quality but it would not be totally different from the design above. Any changes will be notified in updates.
Perhaps because you have been caught so many times stealing artwork or misattributing artwork as original?

As ever, here is the artwork they so painstakingly created, courtesy of Adobe Stock. While this will change nothing and they will fund as they always do, it's just gross.


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I’m not sure why we keep putting up posts with his work. It only serves to draw more attention to it.

The people who are backing his work either don’t care or don’t realize it’s stolen or a combination of slightly modified stock art.
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It’s kind of nice to have some target practice from time to time.

iVirtues must be pretty different from virtues, seeing the producer….
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If they are using the standard license for each of these images (I doubt they are paying $80 per image license) then they are not allowed to use the images for merchandise sales. That's some great sleuthing, oh wise Bacon.

Fenrir, I do get where you're coming from. I get conflicted on whether or not to post their projects in particular but I've been taking a non-discriminatory approach so far when it comes to updating the forums with the latest playing card projects. Everyone is left to decide whether or not to back but at least on UC, we can be transparent and allow people to make more informed decisions.

I had called them out on Facebook not too long ago for a different project and was met with
Thank you for always remembering our mistakes, always bringing them up every time we launch a project or someone posts information about our decks. Let your passion for cards live with our past, have fun and have a good deck collection.
Now seeing that they're still continuing the same patterns leads me to believe they aren't as virtuous in the present day as they proclaim to be.

We can let the powers of KS decide if this project is allowed to stay up or not.
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I reported the project to kickstarter. Hopefully it gets taken down and removed.
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KGthePrince wrote: Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:29 am I reported the project to kickstarter. Hopefully it gets taken down and removed.
That makes two of us then :lol:
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KS corporate is unlikely to do anything about it unless the copyright holder complains directly - as they are also overloaded with virtue, and money - mostly money.
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Can any email dneprstock@gmail.com to see if he really bought license or not
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19$/mth gets unlimited access to royalty free image downloads.
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She is an artist who sold her images to the hyper global mega net and he is a producer who bought them. He sort of kind of collaborated with her in a way lol. He's good legally but otherwise shaky as shit.
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So basically…. This deck is still legal or not?

I have no intention to back this one, considering there are better ones
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I'm guessing the campaign didn't always have this... but instead edited it in once the complaints surfaced?
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I’m sure it’s legal. I’m also sure it’s not worth buying.
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Is the witch hunt over?
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kevork wrote: Fri Jun 06, 2025 12:09 am Fenrir, I do get where you're coming from. I get conflicted on whether or not to post their projects in particular but I've been taking a non-discriminatory so far when it comes to updating the forums with the latest playing card projects. Everyone is left to decide whether or not to back but at least on UC, we can be transparent and allow people to make more informed decisions.
I hear you Kevork. I think that's a fair approach but also when we know there is a blatant issue we should prevent it where we can. That being said, it just feels like deja vu discussions every time a new project of his comes up.
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Fenrir wrote: Fri Jun 06, 2025 10:27 am
kevork wrote: Fri Jun 06, 2025 12:09 am Fenrir, I do get where you're coming from. I get conflicted on whether or not to post their projects in particular but I've been taking a non-discriminatory so far when it comes to updating the forums with the latest playing card projects. Everyone is left to decide whether or not to back but at least on UC, we can be transparent and allow people to make more informed decisions.
I hear you Kevork. I think that's a fair approach but also when we know there is a blatant issue we should prevent it where we can. That being said, it just feels like deja vu discussions every time a new project of his comes up.
What is the blatant issue why this ks should not be posted?
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Haha gj to those involved in poisoning the fruit and forcing him to chop down the tree. I understand some people have a deep hate on and some people are following a lead but how some ran so far with the lie to financially damage the guy. Is he an upstanding and original individual, not by me but how this was handled by some is next level...........special.
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I guess the same treatment can be done to "His Highness" Fulton with his sea of BSes... but unfortunately he'd been backed up by the Buck Twins who keeps on supporting him, and his quick move of deleting critism and sour truth from his posts (along with blocking).
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Nonsense. A “creator” that uses subterfuge to push off stock art in a kickstarter is not a living I wish to support.

Frankly I am happy just to inform the collecting community and leave him to fleece the public at large - but I am glad to see that some folks care enough about the public at large to take them into account.

Sure - I see the point in letting him make a living - and I see the point of protecting the hard earned money of other folks, and the integrity of card collecting in general.


People who buy these decks only to later find out they are clip art, AI, or worse - that hurts the community - and its Hoa trying to make a buck with a lie that did it.

I do not morn him needing to find some other gig. One should not make money off the misery of others, and that is what this equates to in the end, disguised poorly.
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Lmaooooo
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Mind you - multiple chances to change ways, and no changing of ways.
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JazzBaloo wrote: Fri Jun 06, 2025 11:11 am Haha gj to those involved in poisoning the fruit and forcing him to chop down the tree. I understand some people have a deep hate on and some people are following a lead but how some ran so far with the lie to financially damage the guy. Is he an upstanding and original individual, not by me but how this was handled by some is next level...........special.
Brother I couldn't disagree more. His entire model is built on a scam. If he's called out for his shitty practices then he's reaped what he's sowed. His kickstarter got cancelled. Good riddance as far as I'm concerned. He wasn't making money hand over fist so its not like he can't support his family now. I have no sympathy for a con artist losing out of funding in a competitive and saturated hobby.
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It's not ethical but also not illegal. Point out all of the inadequacies with great pride but the lie about this art being stolen has traversed multiple platforms. If you don't see hysteria based on a lie as being a problem then I will have to disagree with you or anyone that is now overlooking that fact.
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But he did lie. There wasn't a collaboration with the artist. He told a half truth and figured it was good enough to finesse people. Did he get Iryna's consent to use her photo in his campaign? Probably not.

I see your point Jazz but again I have 0 sympathy for a grifter. Now he's in the comments saying he uses google translate when communicating in English. He won't even own his deceptive actions. That's cowardly behavior and a continued example of lack of accountability.
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He gets the cheapest designs he can to pass off as something else but they collaborated financially through a 3rd party. Was the design work collaborated on? I would say no. He is misleading but not stealing in this case. One could say that not owning that fact is cowardly. You can be right morally overall but still own up to the fact that it is a lie being portrayed.
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The claim of the art being stolen wouldn't have been an issue if he was honest from the beginning. Besides, the issue has been cleared up, so I don't think anyone is claiming that anymore.

You're right about it being incorrect but I don't think it really matters in the broader picture of a creator who continues to be deceptive.
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Hey man I'm not a Phan supporter. I agree with much being said. I can not gloss over the fact of blatantly lying by claiming criminal offenses to meet ends.
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