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Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:49 pm**

Hi All,

Jacks and Jokers have a new deck in the works.

Those who follow us on Instagram will have seen we have shared the first 3 court cards from the deck:

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Each of the court cards were produced from a painting specifically commissioned for the deck.

We're hoping to launch a Kickstarter at the end of the month / early August.

In the meantime we're offering a free deck to the first person to correctly guess the theme of the deck.

Feel free to post your thoughts / guesses here or on any of the related IG posts.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:26 pm**

Reminds me of RPG characters from the late 80's and early 90's era. Fantastic look I like what's shown.

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:27 pm**

storybook illustrations?

Posted: **Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:43 pm**

Is the theme Fairy tales?

Posted: **Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:48 am**

Looks like tarot card artwork.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:21 am**

Hi All,

Just a heads up for those who are interested.

We have a launch date for our next Kickstarter campaign: Friday, 31st July - 5pm GMT / 12pm EST

There will be limited Early Birds for most tiers plus a few surprises along the way.

Here are a couple more images of the prototype deck:

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First person to guess the theme correctly will win one of the decks hot of the press.

Entries close Midnight GMT on Thursday 30th July.

Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:53 am**

If I had to take a guess, I'd go with the Arthurian legend.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:37 am**

Swan Princess, Swan Lake or the 6/7 Swan princes?

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:22 am**

Gaelic/Welsh/Celtic folklore. I'm guessing the monk (KoC) could be Saint Patrick. The KoD could be King Arthur, but more than likely King Conchobar mac Nessa, or Math fab Mathonwy. The QoH is most likely Aoifé, the wind demoness. The QoS is probably Deirdre, daughter of Fedlimid mac Daill.

Swans are pretty prominent in Celtic folklore, but the JoH could be the Children of Lir. The QoD could be Morrigan, but given the prominence of stars, it is more than likely Arianrhod with her Silver Wheel.

The ten of hearts is just a ten of hearts.

Or I could be completely wrong. Except about the ten of hearts. Still pretty sure it's just a ten of hearts.

Edit: After think thing about it, I'm pretty certain the KoD is King Math fab Mathonwy and QoD is Arianrhod, given that it seems you went out of your way to ensure that King is depicted standing, and that it seems the suits are related characters and stories. The Diamonds seem to depict the story of Math and his testing of Arianrhod with... unfortunate results. Makes sense given that the Hearts depict the story of Lir, his children, and the evil stepmom Aoifé.

Further edit: Just noticed the scar on the KoD's forehead. My first instinct was right, it's mac Nessa. But, I am still certain on Arianrhod, Children of Lir, and Aoifé. The QoS has to be Deirdre, given that, other than Saint Patrick, she is the most prominent Irish folklore character today.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:13 am**

Left field thought: seems to be some Irish/Celtic themes throughout.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:50 pm**

Coming back to this, once again. This is most certainly a Celtic folklore/mythology themed deck. However, most of these stories have also been syncretized (hey, I learned a new word) or created for the Irish-Catholic mythos, not unlike Santeria or Vodun.

Some changes were seamless, like Saint Patrick (duh). Some changes were made thematically; the story Lir, Aoifé, and the swan children went from themes of "nature" and "trust" to one of "faith in the divine". And some changes were pretty hamfisted, like King mac Nessa and Deidre, in which the story now ended with mac Nessa getting baptized by the blood of his exploding head (fun!), so that it was a better parallel to David and Bathsheba.

The only one that doesn't seem to fit that theme is Arianrhod, as she was part of a Pantheon, and those never seem to translate well into Catholicism. Unless the QoD is Morgan le Fay or Morrigan, but even then it fells like a stretch.

So, theme is either Celtic folklore/mythology, or possible a more specific theme of Celtic-Christian mythos.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:27 pm**

Blair witch or the ring theme

Posted: **Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:01 am**

Daisho wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:22 am Gaelic/Welsh/Celtic folklore. I'm guessing the monk (KoC) could be Saint Patrick. The KoD could be King Arthur, but more than likely King Conchobar mac Nessa, or Math fab Mathonwy. The QoH is most likely Aoifé, the wind demoness. The QoS is probably Deirdre, daughter of Fedlimid mac Daill.

Swans are pretty prominent in Celtic folklore, but the JoH could be the Children of Lir. The QoD could be Morrigan, but given the prominence of stars, it is more than likely Arianrhod with her Silver Wheel.

The ten of hearts is just a ten of hearts.

Or I could be completely wrong. Except about the ten of hearts. Still pretty sure it's just a ten of hearts.

Edit: After think thing about it, I'm pretty certain the KoD is King Math fab Mathonwy and QoD is Arianrhod, given that it seems you went out of your way to ensure that King is depicted standing, and that it seems the suits are related characters and stories. The Diamonds seem to depict the story of Math and his testing of Arianrhod with... unfortunate results. Makes sense given that the Hearts depict the story of Lir, his children, and the evil stepmom Aoifé.

Further edit: Just noticed the scar on the KoD's forehead. My first instinct was right, it's mac Nessa. But, I am still certain on Arianrhod, Children of Lir, and Aoifé. The QoS has to be Deirdre, given that, other than Saint Patrick, she is the most prominent Irish folklore character today.

That's some very specific guesses! You a Celtic folkore buff? Pretty cool and I'll be looking up those stories.

Posted: **Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:39 am**

We have a winner.

Congratulations to Daisho who was the first to correctly guess the theme of our new deck.

The deck is based upon the story of The Children of Lir and here they all are:

We are officially counting down to launch day now with only 5 days to go.

Kickstarter launch time - July 31st 5pm GMT / 12pm EST

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:22 am**

Hi All,

Lir playing cards is now live on Kickstarter for anyone interested

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:57 am**

This looks to be a passion project and I believe the passion translates well into the deck of playing cards. Even so I have a feeling you'll be doing it without much assistance from the US based backers though. Royal mail costs about half that for up to 2kg to the US and we know it.

Look closely at the last photo and you can see the textured surface of the cards.

Something to consider. Perhaps, in this case, a clickable link to a nice high res photo of an entire card for the visually challenged would be a welcome addition to your campaign. Helps those of us (there are a lot) who aren't as blessed as the rest the sight department.

I wish you the very best and I hope you have massive success with this campaign!

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:27 pm**

Hi Fes,

Thanks for the kind words and your suggestions - I will see what I can do regarding the high res image.

Fes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:57 am Royal mail costs about half that for up to 2kg to the US and we know it.

Where are you getting these figures from?

Royal Mail have increased their prices twice this year so far.

It now costs £9.84 without tracking and £12.34 with tracking for a single deck to be shipped to the US.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:45 pm**

JacksandJokers wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:27 pm
Fes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:57 am Royal mail costs about half that for up to 2kg to the US and we know it.
Where are you getting these figures from?

Royal Mail have increased their prices twice this year so far.

It now costs £9.84 without tracking and £12.34 with tracking for a single deck to be shipped to the US.

I got this from right here on royalmail.com. Also last time I ordered from JP it was, what 7something. I had not been aware of further price hikes toward those astronomical numbers. This is very unfortunate to find out. It's just not an option for single deck at that shipping price, simply isn't. Maybe I'll ask a pal just outside london back your campaign for me. Then bulk ship some gear over all at once and make it a viable shipping fee.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:56 pm**

Thanks.

Unfortunately, £6.41 is just the starting price for a small letter.

If you scroll down a bit you can see it get's more expensive for parcels.

Here is the actual cost of shipping 1 deck:
(This is why we're allowing backers to add on items from our store to make it more cost effective

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Posted: **Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:55 pm**

Hi All,

Lir playing Cards is officially half way through the campaign and 85% funded.

If you haven't checked it out yet please do so and help spread the word.

Thanks,

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:49 pm**

Final 3 days of the campaign and we're still at 85% funded.

Now's your chance to jump on board if you're interested.

As an incentive we'll be giving away a prototype deck to one lucky winner if the deck gets funded.

Would love to have you on board

Posted: **Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:59 am**

For those interested, this has been relaunched with lower pricing and lower funding goal.

Posted: **Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:29 am**

Many thanks @Strag for the mention.

Yes folks, we're back.

We were so close to funding last time so it made sense to lower the funding goal slightly to (hopefully) ensure funding this time around.

We were also able to lower the pricing slightly, although shipping is still ridiculously expensive, but the early bird prices are a very good deal especially if we are able to unlock our new 2021 deck.

The deck(s) will be printed with Ivory Graphics in the UK who did the Time is Magic deck.
Whilst not quite cardistry material they are more than adequate for playing with.

Posted: **Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:30 am**

Best of success with the campaign

. I like your persistence. Make it happen

Any info on that 2021 deck?

Posted: **Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:51 am**

Jesus, shipping is a killer- $14 deck becomes $33 with shipping... WOOF.

Posted: **Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:29 am**

Yes, Unfortunately shipping is stupidly expensive which is why we're allowing backers to combine orders from our website.
Combined shipping definitely helps as it isn't too much extra to add additional decks.

With regards to the New 2021 deck:

We will release images once the Lir campaign reaches its funding goal and it will be available through the campaign as a stretch goal.
All tiers have the option to split the decks 50/50 should the stretch goal be reached.

Stay Tuned!

Posted: **Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:07 pm**

I'm back in. Good luck with it this time Simon.

Posted: **Sat Mar 06, 2021 2:43 pm**

Hey Brad,

Thanks for the support, Glad to have you on board.

Hopefully we will make it this time, we're half way already

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:55 am**

vasta41 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:51 am Jesus, shipping is a killer- $14 deck becomes $33 with shipping... WOOF.

Yup welcome to the pain those of us not in the US feel. This is the rare campagin where I get better shipping costs than most.

$14 shipping is usually pretty standard for me and it can twice that or more!

Posted: **Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:26 am**

Strag wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:55 am
vasta41 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:51 am Jesus, shipping is a killer- $14 deck becomes $33 with shipping... WOOF.
Yup welcome to the pain those of us not in the US feel. This is the rare campagin where I get better shipping costs than most.

$14 shipping is usually pretty standard for me and it can twice that or more!

I don't know how you guys do it.

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