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THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USPCC
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:12 pm
by 3rd dominion
Hi, guys!
I'm new to playing cards.
In the near future I plan to launch my project on Kickstarter.
I will be glad to see you feedback. Please find a pre-launch link here:
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Thank you and all good health.
Best regars,
Andy
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:18 pm
by Decknowledgy
Finally a deck that did the fan renders right! For X sake... even a bunch of cardistry decks render fan in the most unrealistic way... I appreciate you for this. The other aspects? I'd say this is better than the average magician's deck. (Does have reminiscence of Mint though but not a bad way; the markings are cool)

Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:25 pm
by 3rd dominion
Thank you, Decknowledgy!
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:58 pm
by MagikFingerz
Decknowledgy wrote:Finally a deck that did the fan renders right! For X sake... even a bunch of cardistry decks render fan in the most unrealistic way...
I can't say I agree, I've never made a fan that looks like that. That's not to say it's a bad render per se, and I've seen far worse, but I don't see what's realistic about it?
Not my kind of deck, but I like the pattern

Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:10 pm
by 3rd dominion
That's a mix of render and real prints
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:19 pm
by Decknowledgy
MagikFingerz wrote:Decknowledgy wrote:Finally a deck that did the fan renders right! For X sake... even a bunch of cardistry decks render fan in the most unrealistic way...
I can't say I agree, I've never made a fan that looks like that. That's not to say it's a bad render per se, and I've seen far worse, but I don't see what's realistic about it?
Not my kind of deck, but I like the pattern

I'll provide an example here (now on KS), advertised as cardistry deck. How the heck can anyone realistically produce this thumb fan? There's no pivot point whatsoever!!
And believe me, most cardistry deck renders pivot the deck out of thin air... At least this deck here pivots the fan right on the corner.
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:08 pm
by MagikFingerz
Decknowledgy wrote:At least this deck here pivots the fan right on the corner.
This is curious. I don't know how you make fans, but I've never seen a fan with the pivot point on the corner.
Here's a picture of a thumb fan (by yours truly), the pivot point is much closer to the middle of the short side than the absolute corner. So it's actually more in line with the renders you posted. Also, I'm pretty sure moving your thumb throughout the movement is common practice, thus the pivot point becomes less static.
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:09 pm
by Harvonsgard
Exactly my thoughts. To achieve a fan like shown in the campaign you would have to extremely pinch the lower corner of the deck which makes the fan weird and pretty fragile.
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:51 pm
by Decknowledgy
MagikFingerz wrote:Decknowledgy wrote:At least this deck here pivots the fan right on the corner.
This is curious. I don't know how you make fans, but I've never seen a fan with the pivot point on the corner.
Here's a picture of a thumb fan (by yours truly), the pivot point is much closer to the middle of the short side than the absolute corner. So it's actually more in line with the renders you posted. Also, I'm pretty sure moving your thumb throughout the movement is common practice, thus the pivot point becomes less static.
I guess we're talking about the same thing then... notice the black hole in the middle of the Omen renders? That's also impossible to achieve like how you've talked about the pivot point right "on" the corner. The black dot/hole in the middle of those common renders shouldn't be there because no matter which are we talking about, the corner or the middle of the lower edge, our thumbs will always hold a bit away from the absolute border/corner, which is what both renders are doing here.

Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:01 pm
by MagikFingerz
Decknowledgy wrote:MagikFingerz wrote:Decknowledgy wrote:At least this deck here pivots the fan right on the corner.
This is curious. I don't know how you make fans, but I've never seen a fan with the pivot point on the corner.
Here's a picture of a thumb fan (by yours truly), the pivot point is much closer to the middle of the short side than the absolute corner. So it's actually more in line with the renders you posted. Also, I'm pretty sure moving your thumb throughout the movement is common practice, thus the pivot point becomes less static.
I guess we're talking about the same thing then... notice the black hole in the middle of the Omen renders? That's also impossible to achieve like how you've talked about the pivot point right "on" the corner. The black dot/hole in the middle of those common renders shouldn't be there because no matter which are we talking about, the corner or the middle of the lower edge, our thumbs will always hold a bit away from the absolute border/corner, which is what both renders are doing here.

I see what you mean, but the black hole is pretty small, and those renders are still closer to the real thing than the corner-pivot IMO.
But I think we can both agree that bad renders have plagued this industry for far too long. I've often wondered if there's a better way of making them, like superimposing the back design onto a picture of a fan or something. Though I guess you'd need a full bleed single color deck for that.
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:31 am
by OVSUB
I like them but they seem too much like the Mints. Will check out the launch though.
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:53 am
by 3rd dominion
We used completly different marking system. Our system is the simplest. Maybe our marked deck remind you a Mint, because the systems are based on some "abstract symbols"
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:41 am
by OVSUB
Gotta admit your system is really good.
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:07 am
by Eric Lee
back is very similar to the mints for sure, but I like the marking system. Very nice and definitely easier to read than the mints. But the courts are also different. Nice and well, fits the theme of the art of the con. Hah
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:45 pm
by 3rd dominion
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:51 pm
by 3rd dominion
Support us on Kickstarter
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:52 pm
by OVSUB
Just asking, would you consider metallic inks for a stretch goal?
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:35 pm
by 3rd dominion
We think about it and I'll give you reply during a week
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:41 pm
by OVSUB
Coolio! Thanks for the consideration.
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:06 pm
by 3rd dominion
You too!
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:00 pm
by 3rd dominion
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Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:57 pm
by Magic Tapp
Can someone please merge the two threads together?
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:19 am
by 3rd dominion
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Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:09 am
by 3rd dominion
Magic Tapp wrote:Can someone please merge the two threads together?
Sorry, it was my mistake
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:55 am
by 3rd dominion
Last days and new special rewards.
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Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:05 am
by Azazaaz
Just cancelled my early bird pledge if someone interested is quick enough.
Just so you know, they announced a switch of printers from USPCC to NPCC due to the delays related to COVID-19.
Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:13 pm
by Harvonsgard
Call me a tin foil hat but seeing that the creator is from the Ukraine, just like NPCC, I suspect the good Ol'switcheroo was planned from the get-go...

Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:06 am
by shkorc
Guess they really mastered THE ART OF THE CON

Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:06 am
by Harvonsgard
LOL... didn't even realize that. Can't blame them for lying then, I guess

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Re: THE ART OF THE CON. A Custom Marked Deck. Printed by USP
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:21 am
by 3rd dominion
Last hours on Kickstarter