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11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMagic
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:01 pm
by badpete69
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:05 pm
by vasta41
Not for me. I also wonder how 5K has already been pledged?
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:15 pm
by RWPPFFShuffle
Ooph, talk about clipart pasted on backs... Also the marking system on these seem way too obvious to be explained away as "time flies."
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:16 pm
by Decknowledgy
vasta41 wrote:Not for me. I also wonder how 5K has already been pledged?
Most likely IG resellers like Socal or others, lots of them have been #IGCardFam-ing this deck
I think there's a marking system?
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:24 pm
by BaconWise
Regardless of the fact the artwork on this deck is not inspired in any way, I wouldn't come anywhere near a Bill Davis project after how he handled his Wild Boar debacle. Obviously, she has lots of support from her fellow cardists and it looks like this will somehow fund, but it's not an attractive deck.
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:27 pm
by vasta41
This deck looks like it was slapped together at the 11th hour.
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:29 pm
by akicer
Bill Davis Magic = Pass
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:50 pm
by MagikFingerz
As I was reading, I thought to myself: Wait.. THE Bill Davis?

Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:55 pm
by RichK
No one mentioned the forking Daniel Madison King yet. I asked "why him" and Emily said DM helped with the deck. More reason to pass.
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:16 pm
by STLBluesNut
It was already a no on the design, but Bill Davis makes it a hell no. Daniel Madison makes it a f#@% no!
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Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:31 pm
by PrincessTrouble
akicer wrote:Bill Davis Magic = Pass
+1
I don't even like that we're advertising one of his projects with how he behaved here.
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:41 am
by MagikFingerz
PrincessTrouble wrote:akicer wrote:Bill Davis Magic = Pass
+1
I don't even like that we're advertising one of his projects with how he behaved here.
I like how anyone who googles for info on this deck might find this thread and read about his past transgressions

Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:40 am
by Eric Lee
I follow Emily on IG a little. She is into magic, hence the marked deck and standard courts. She needed someone who has experience with both KS and card design, so it appears that Bill helped out there. Gotta appreciate Bill for helping a newbie out; which shows he's got his good side.
Her first custom deck was Madison deck and she practiced her magic on that. (gold revolvers if I recall correctly) So that's probably why he's on the courts as well. Good for him if he helped her out.
However, she should have gotten more feedback on IG on the deck designs and the KS campaign, especially with such a high goal and on Nov to boot! It's her first and she's got a ways to go to improve the design. So hopefully she'll learn from this and improve as she goes. Who knows, maybe her connections with Bill and Madison may help and get Murphy to produce this deck?

Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:51 pm
by STLBluesNut
Not many people are going to give feedback on Instagram. Her followers would likely be fans and not provide any comments except how great they look.
I try at times to give feedback on various decks on Instagram but usually if you look at comments of even crappy decks it's just fire and 100 emojis.
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Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:03 am
by Harvonsgard
PrincessTrouble wrote:I don't even like that we're advertising one of his projects with how he behaved here.
Regarding this, I would say what Magik wrote.
It is better to make people aware of stuff than being silent about stuff. For example a couple of users on reddit, were pretty thankful that the whole Madison situation was discussed, soo that they didn't burn money and were aware of what was going on. If no one ever talks about the bad guys, how should newer people have access to that information?
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:33 am
by theCapraAegagrus
Easiest f&*king pass of my entire life.
Bill Davis is a loser. Anyone who collaborates with him is a loser.
Where did he steal the clip art from this time?
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:55 am
by Bradius
I think this time he hired or co-produced with an artist, EmilySlights52.
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:07 am
by Harvonsgard
Bradius wrote:I think this time he hired or co-produced with an artist, EmilySlights52.
I feel like
artists becomes a title way too easy to attain...

Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:18 am
by Decknowledgy
Judging by how much blank they've left on the back for boosting the clock theme, using the hands for the marking system is a pretty stupid and noticeable idea.
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:29 am
by Eric Lee
Decknowledgy wrote:Judging by how much blank they've left on the back for boosting the clock theme, using the hands for the marking system is a pretty stupid and noticeable idea.
Yeah, well, this is a beginner/ VERY amateur attempt.

Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:22 am
by emilysleights52
Hi, I'm very sorry you don't like the design. It was done by the designer of the Hannya deck, Destino. I love his work! The marking system is a part of the deck we developed very early on and perfected. The marking system is not what it seems: Just because it's 5 o'clock, it doesn't mean the value of the card is a five. If you would like to learn the marking system I will be more than happy to send you a free deck! Just let me know

Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:16 am
by theCapraAegagrus
The clown has returned...

Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:22 am
by emilysleights52
RWPPFFShuffle wrote:Ooph, talk about clipart pasted on backs... Also the marking system on these seem way too obvious to be explained away as "time flies."
Hey, Emilysleights here! I'm sorry you don't like the design, we worked with the designer of the Hannya deck, Destino! Bill and I worked on the marking system for awhile and perfected it. As it is a system, everything is not as it seems. Just because it may be 6 o'clock, it doesn't mean the value is a six! If you're interested in learning the marking system I would be more than happy to send you a deck! Just let me know..have a great day!

Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:37 am
by theCapraAegagrus
billdavismagic wrote:theCapraAegagrus wrote:The clown has returned...

Umm... I'm honored? (Clowns make people laugh and DO have a great sense of humor.) How are you? Perhaps you're willing to start fresh, if not I understand. Nothing but love!

Hard pass. Can't trust a Madison crony.
If you don't learn from history, you're doomed to repeat it.
Fool me once; shame on you. Fool me twice; shame on me.
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:48 am
by Decknowledgy
Mods, how the heck did a blacklister get back on the forum and began spamming the hell out of his deck?
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:51 am
by theCapraAegagrus
Decknowledgy wrote:Mods, how the heck did a blacklister get back on the forum and began spamming the hell out of his deck?
Black List doesn't really mean banned, but, Bill exhibited ban-able behavior IMO.
Claimed he was never coming back, and I agree that he has basically spammed this thread.
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:53 am
by Mike Ratledge
Guys & gals, you know I moderate in moderation, but let's keep it civil.
Bill and Emily are here to answer questions about their deck, let's keep the conversation limited to that.
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:53 am
by Harvonsgard
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:55 am
by BaconWise
I don't mind that Bill's here and keeping comments positive, but this feels very similar to how the Wild Boar thread began. Everything was I'm sorry you feel that way and everyone has different tastes and I respect your thoughts (I'm paraphrasing) then it turned very personal and very nasty on UC AND on KS. My vote would be to lock this thread down - get ahead of things. We can close it out on a civil note.
Re: 11th Hour Playing Cards by EmilySleights52 & BillDavisMa
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:58 am
by Harvonsgard
BaconWise wrote:I don't mind that Bill's here and keeping comments positive, but this feels very similar to how the Wild Boar thread began. Everything was I'm sorry you feel that way and everyone has different tastes and I respect your thoughts (I'm paraphrasing) then it turned very personal and very nasty on UC AND on KS. My vote would be to lock this thread down - get ahead of things. We can close it out on a civil note.
