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amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:55 am
by Sviatoslav Pashchuk
On Tuesday, 8 October, we’re launching this project!
Los Angeles 10am PST
NY 1pm EDT
London 6pm GMT+1
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:11 am
by shkorc
This will get funded in a heartbeat
Just wandering about the prices?
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:18 am
by brownsl
I hope the stretch goals get met because the tuck box with foil and embossing will look amazing!
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter (wa
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:56 am
by LasVegasCards
Wow.
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:03 am
by Adonael
That's a huge goal, and I'll admit the tuck looks fantastic, not at all interested in the cards though. Regardless, I of course could never support this creator. I could put what I think of him into words but it wouldn't be pretty (though I think I summed it up nicely in the past 'This guy is basically the Ukranian equivalent of a sociopathic White Nationalist.'), or useful, as apparently it's all already been forgotten. And even then he sadly had drooling morons who defended what he said and revealed himself to be. So no thanks and I'll see myself out.

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Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:18 am
by Räpylätassu
Adonael wrote:That's a huge goal, and I'll admit the tuck looks fantastic, not at all interested in the cards though. Regardless, I of course could never support this creator. I could put what I think of him into words but it wouldn't pretty (though I think I summed it up nicely in the past 'This guy is basically the Ukranian equivalent of a sociopathic White Nationalist.', or useful, as apparently it's all already been forgotten. And even then he sadly had drooling morons who defended what he said and revealed himself to be. So no thanks and I'll see myself out.
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As far as I know, he made a one stupid comment a few years ago about Russians. Since then and before that I have seen nothing bad from him. I also like to point out that although that comment was quite a horrendous thing to say, his country was literally being invaded by Russian military in an unjust war. I know that I say and act like a complete fool when I'm angry and there are so many comments I've made I wish that I could take back.
Would you cast the first stone?
As for the cards, I normally don't like hyper realism on court cards but these do look really nice, they manage not to go overboard with it. I also really like the tuckbox.
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:19 am
by Azid
The last 2 Projects (Military Pin-Up & Tank Masters) weren't for me because of the theme, but i'll be a backer for sure on this one.
I like the detailed courts artwork of your decks, they look almost like a photo.
I'm so happy that you finally decided to use USPPC now for this deck. *big thumbs up*
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:00 am
by Decknowledgy
I've been following this project for some time now and I gotta say it's definitely worth it with all the attention on the details... I've never seen such hyperrealistic shadows on the artwork before

Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:11 am
by wingedpotato
Geez that tuck is SO gorgeous! And while the art is detailed and meticulous, I just don't care for the Eastern-European-lingerie-models-in-leather vibe. But that tuck...
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:30 am
by theCapraAegagrus
These look f&*king great!
The mono-color back design is very disappointing, though.
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:34 am
by MagikFingerz
theCapraAegagrus wrote:
The mono-color back design is very disappointing, though.
My thoughts exactly. The back design is often what makes, or in this case breaks, the deck for me.
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:37 am
by STLBluesNut
Yep, definitely in on this. The military pin up deck was great and the tuck was even better than expected. I hope this tuck gets all the features. Perhaps the embossing could be after just one of the foils?
3 foils without embossing may be kind of odd. The courts look great though!
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Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:11 pm
by BaconWise
I think Tank Masters and El Recuerdo were great and Agitcom has several great campaigns under their belt. This deck looks amazing, and if all three foils are unlocked...holy shit.
I can't help but be a little put off by the way the Amazons are portrayed. They don't seem authentic. I can't deny the artwork is stunning and I love the hyper-realistic style. It's jaw-dropping. Buuuuuuut, it just looks like supermodels posing in sexy Halloween costumes. Not to mention, the way they are holding their weapons is undeniably phallic

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I'm not trying to be a prude here. I don't mind bewbs and beautiful women on playing cards (I am a fan of Gio's, after all). If Sviatoslav wants to portray them in an authentic light,
as warriors, why not have them dirty, or covered in blood or war paint? Why not have them displaying some ferocity along with those perfect breasticles? I think what I am trying to say is that these cards could use more action. As it stands, I would just call this Amazon Spartans "pin-up". His military pin-up deck worked so well because the cards were intended to display their beauty with a military theme. In this case, it sounds like the goal is to display a lost culture of storied warriors, so it could use a bit more grit and action for my taste.
That being said, I am definitely intrigued that he has a whole series planned beyond this deck (Samurais and Vikings).
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:54 pm
by Magic Tapp
The tuck looks very similar to the red High Victorian T11 deck. I am also unimpressed with the artwork which is again a carbon copy of his pinup deck. Moving to USPCC is encouraging but, with the 52+Joker Convention with their annual deck and Alex Chin’s NSPCC release just around the corner, it is an easy pass for me.
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:50 pm
by wingedpotato
BaconWise wrote:
I'm not trying to be a prude here. I don't mind bewbs and beautiful women on playing cards (I am a fan of Gio's, after all). If Sviatoslav wants to portray them in an authentic light, as warriors, why not have them dirty, or covered in blood or war paint? Why not have them displaying some ferocity along with those perfect breasticles?
You may have meant that to mirror testicles, but I read it as breast-sicles (like popsicles)!

Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:43 pm
by james001a
That tuck really reminds me of the T11 High Victorians deck. Anyone else see it?
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:45 pm
by Magic Tapp
james001a wrote:That tuck really reminds me of the T11 High Victorians deck. Anyone else see it?
Exactly what I said above. [emoji4]
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:37 pm
by hsbc
Yeah, these look fantastic

Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:10 pm
by STLBluesNut
I love the High Victorian tuck, so I think that is a plus. I certainly wouldn't say this is a carbon copy of the Military Pin Up deck. I liked that deck and I think this is even better.
How do I keep forgetting the Sviatslov also did El Recuerdo? That was my runner up to DOTY last year. I still almost voted for it. I didnt care for Tankmasters and am happy he went back to this style.
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Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:13 am
by flashcards
Of course there is also the "Any resemblance to actual... persons, living or dead, is entirely coincidental". Quite a few coincidences here, I'd have to say.
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:17 am
by Sviatoslav Pashchuk
Thank you all for your feedback! I’m glad that you like the deck!
-CapraAegagrus - I have several variants of the back, I will try to show. The monochromatic version seems the most classic to me.
- STLBluesNut - yes, I can put embossing goal before two other foils. It’s only now I noticed that my box really looks like a T11 design. This is a compliment to me
- BaconWise - you are so attentive to the details! In fact, I had no intention of creating a historical deck; it had to be more fantasy style. So please treat the images more abstractly. I will try to give them a little shabby look, and I promise that the next deck with the samurais will look less pin-up style

Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:49 am
by theCapraAegagrus
Sviatoslav Pashchuk wrote:-CapraAegagrus - I have several variants of the back, I will try to show. The monochromatic version seems the most classic to me.
I don't think that adding background colors does this design any justice. I think that all of the white should stay. I just think the other elements could have different colors to enhance the overall appeal.
The blood red color was a good start IMO.
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:05 am
by vasta41
theCapraAegagrus wrote:Sviatoslav Pashchuk wrote:-CapraAegagrus - I have several variants of the back, I will try to show. The monochromatic version seems the most classic to me.
I don't think that adding background colors does this design any justice. I think that all of the white should stay. I just think the other elements could have different colors to enhance the overall appeal.
The blood red color was a good start IMO.
I will most likely back the deck as-is but if we're voting I think the extra color on the 2 right-most renders above are my favorite, especially the last one since it matches the back of tuck. I like when the back of cards and back of tuck match.
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:06 am
by Decknowledgy
Sviatoslav Pashchuk wrote: I have several variants of the back, I will try to show. The monochromatic version seems the most classic to me.
Although that 5th color scheme is attractive, it does have a similar vibe with the Iron Spades deck tuck box from the Iron Clay campaign. The 3rd blue on brown also has a similar color with Midnight's Wild West Black Hills edition. Personally, I feel that the 4th red on yellow has that aggressiveness matching the Amazon/Spartan theme, but the monotone back isn't bad at all.
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:14 am
by STLBluesNut
I really prefer the 5th card back with all of the color. Much more appealing to me. To have all of the realistic and rich color on the courts and then do a monochrome back doesn't seem to fit. The reasoning of choosing the monochrome was to be a classic back? This deck is anything buck classic style. So for me, the classic monochrome back doesn't make sense.
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Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:05 am
by Azid
The back design from the preview campaign (white/red) is a bit boring in comparison to the colorful face cards.
NO.5 is my favorite, and it fits the tuck.

Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:50 pm
by Sviatoslav Pashchuk
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Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:37 pm
by vasta41
#1 (#5 in the fist pic) is still the best.
Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:46 pm
by STLBluesNut
1 in the second picture and 5 in the first picture. From what I can tell they look similar, I would probably have to see them side by side.
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Re: amazons Spartans Playing Cards vol. 1 on Kickstarter
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:22 pm
by Eric Lee
As mentioned earlier, the back of the cards seem so plain after the beauty of the tuck and the courts. Just like a lot of Theory 11 decks where they have great tucks but monochromatic backs and standard courts. Such a disappointment. But their price point is at $10, while yours is at $16 for non-EB.
I do understand that you're trying to keep it simple and 'Spartan' .Do consider adding at least 1 more colour to the backs and see how it turns out.