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One of the easiest passes of all-time.

These are awful.

Are they even allowed to use Kickstarter's logo on their tuck box..?

Not sure about the Kickstarter logo, but I give them credit thinking custom mechanics for each and every card.

Not long ago I was just proposing steam punk for Gio.... so yeah, this, I can.

Is the Dale Mathis deck not "steam punk"? Granted, I don't know - or give a f^&*, about whatever "steam punk" is...

I'm reluctant to use slang, but steam punk sounds really gay... Like, a band of really gay guys in a steam room recording punk rock, kinda gay...

TwoPiece wrote:Like, a band of really gay guys in a steam room recording punk rock, kinda gay...

What's your take on cyber punk then? Can't wait for your take

Decknowledgy wrote:

TwoPiece wrote:Like, a band of really gay guys in a steam room recording punk rock, kinda gay...

What's your take on cyber punk then? Can't wait for your take

And just what the hell is wrong with punk rock!?

Decknowledgy wrote:

TwoPiece wrote:Like, a band of really gay guys in a steam room recording punk rock, kinda gay...

What's your take on cyber punk then? Can't wait for your take

Probably a bunch of gay guys cyber-ing in a chat room while listening to punk rock...

vasta41 wrote:

Decknowledgy wrote:

TwoPiece wrote:Like, a band of really gay guys in a steam room recording punk rock, kinda gay...

What's your take on cyber punk then? Can't wait for your take

And just what the hell is wrong with punk rock!?

Other than that it's mostly just trash? Nothing...

For the record - Green Day is probably the worst band in music history. IIRC, they consider themselves modern punk rock. Is 70's and 80's punk rock any good? Doubt it. Not worth a try IMO.

TwoPiece wrote:

vasta41 wrote:

Decknowledgy wrote:

TwoPiece wrote:Like, a band of really gay guys in a steam room recording punk rock, kinda gay...

What's your take on cyber punk then? Can't wait for your take

And just what the hell is wrong with punk rock!?

Other than that it's mostly just trash? Nothing...

For the record - Green Day is probably the worst band in music history. IIRC, they consider themselves modern punk rock. Is 70's and 80's punk rock any good? Doubt it. Not worth a try IMO.

It's a good thing you weren't one of my girlfriends or you would have HATED my mix tapes.

For the record, steam punk's got nothing to do with punk rock, but I'm coming after you anyways, Twopiece.

vasta41 wrote: It's a good thing you weren't one of my girlfriends or you would have HATED my mix tapes.

Mix tapes? Holy hell how old are you?

Wait, I think my older brother made mix tapes for his GFs, so maybe you're not that old...

Decknowledgy wrote:For the record, steam punk's got nothing to do with punk rock, but I'm coming after you anyways, Twopiece.

So steam punk is... Transformers..?

That can't be, because I love(d) Transformers.

vasta41 wrote:

TwoPiece wrote:

vasta41 wrote: And just what the hell is wrong with punk rock!?

Other than that it's mostly just trash? Nothing...

For the record - Green Day is probably the worst band in music history. IIRC, they consider themselves modern punk rock. Is 70's and 80's punk rock any good? Doubt it. Not worth a try IMO.

It's a good thing you weren't one of my girlfriends or you would have HATED my mix tapes.

It's a good thing 2pc wasn't one of your girlfriends or he'd be my daughter-in-law.

TwoPiece wrote: So steam punk is... Transformers..?

That can't be, because I love(d) Transformers.

Steampunk is a subgenre of science fiction or science fantasy that incorporates technology and aesthetic designs inspired by 19th-century industrial steam-powered machinery... are often set in an alternative history of the 19th century's British Victorian era or American "Wild West", in a future during which steam power has maintained mainstream usage, or in a fantasy world that similarly employs steam power.

via Wikipedia

In short, it's having fun with the aesthetical fantasies of integrating steam powered mechanics into daily life, sometimes even body parts.

So yeah, if Shia LaBeouf ended up having a car wreck in Bumblebee, there you have it: STEAMPUNKed.

Decknowledgy wrote:

TwoPiece wrote: So steam punk is... Transformers..?

That can't be, because I love(d) Transformers.

Steampunk is a subgenre of science fiction or science fantasy that incorporates technology and aesthetic designs inspired by 19th-century industrial steam-powered machinery... are often set in an alternative history of the 19th century's British Victorian era or American "Wild West", in a future during which steam power has maintained mainstream usage, or in a fantasy world that similarly employs steam power.

via Wikipedia

In short, it's having fun with the aesthetical fantasies of integrating steam powered mechanics into daily life, sometimes even body parts.

So yeah, if Shia LaBeouf ended up having a car wreck in Bumblebee, there you have it: STEAMPUNKed.

That's, like, the worst definition of anything I've ever read. How/why are people into this..?

New trend: Dildo Punk

Definition: A science fiction genre of an alternate universe where thrusting your hips with a cod piece or dildo creates energy to power anything that requires a fuel source on Earth-616.

Alternate definition: That little punk that runs around at night while all the grandparents are asleep and whacks their houses with a dildo (probably because he's started smoking rocks, or PCP, OR MAYBE EVEN THE DEVIL'S LETTUCE, etc).

TwoPiece wrote:One of the easiest passes of all-time.

These are awful.

Are they even allowed to use Kickstarter's logo on their tuck box..?

Seriously? I don't think these are that bad. I kinda like them actually, not enough that I would back it but these aren't awful by any means.

TwoPiece wrote:Are they even allowed to use Kickstarter's logo on their tuck box..?

I've asked, they said Kickstarter agrees

TwoPiece wrote:

Decknowledgy wrote:

TwoPiece wrote: So steam punk is... Transformers..?

That can't be, because I love(d) Transformers.

Steampunk is a subgenre of science fiction or science fantasy that incorporates technology and aesthetic designs inspired by 19th-century industrial steam-powered machinery... are often set in an alternative history of the 19th century's British Victorian era or American "Wild West", in a future during which steam power has maintained mainstream usage, or in a fantasy world that similarly employs steam power.

via Wikipedia

In short, it's having fun with the aesthetical fantasies of integrating steam powered mechanics into daily life, sometimes even body parts.

So yeah, if Shia LaBeouf ended up having a car wreck in Bumblebee, there you have it: STEAMPUNKed.

That's, like, the worst definition of anything I've ever read. How/why are people into this..?

New trend: Dildo Punk

Definition: A science fiction genre of an alternate universe where thrusting your hips with a cod piece or dildo creates energy to power anything that requires a fuel source on Earth-616.

Alternate definition: That little punk that runs around at night while all the grandparents are asleep and whacks their houses with a dildo (probably because he's started smoking rocks, or PCP, OR MAYBE EVEN THE DEVIL'S LETTUCE, etc).

There is some exploration of the lifting "punk" is doing in compounds like steampunk, cyberpunk, etc. here, but the upshot is that literary "punk" genres tend to focus on the lower-class, scrappy outsiders living on the margins of society - much the same people who developed and popularized punk music, hence the analogy. (You sometimes see the same grimy, earthy sensibility gestured at with terms like "low fantasy," as contrasted with the "high fantasy" of elves and magical kingdoms.)

Man, you guys can really derail a thread fast...

I just can't get over how weird and inconsistent those renderings are. That overlay effect or whatever it is, some have unrounded corners, etc.

These are still miles ahead of some other steampunk decks Ive seen *cough*T11*cough*

The subject really isn't my cup of tea, but I do like the artwork on the backs.

Some other steampunk decks just opt for a mechanical tuck or just partial artwork like the Bicycle Steampunk deck, but this one really went full-fledged into each and every card. I don't mind if it's one-way designed, the artwork still looks fascinating and decent.

MagikFingerz wrote:Man, you guys can really derail a thread fast...

I just can't get over how weird and inconsistent those renderings are. That overlay effect or whatever it is, some have unrounded corners, etc.

Replace "Sith Lords" with "derailing threads":

Thanks folks, for such trenchant and meaningful, well-reasoned criticism.

I now know that these cards are "awful" and "gay". How insightful.

And that punk rock was just "mostly trash" (which is kind of stating the obvious - the clue is in the name, and it was deliberately so).

In what way a deck of cards can have a sexual preference escapes me though... anyone want to jump on that particular grenade for me ?

ALR wrote:Thanks folks, for such trenchant and meaningful, well-reasoned criticism.

I now know that these cards are "awful" and "gay". How insightful.

And that punk rock was just "mostly trash" (which is kind of stating the obvious - the clue is in the name, and it was deliberately so).

In what way a deck of cards can have a sexual preference escapes me though... anyone want to jump on that particular grenade for me ?

Some (more) appropriate criticisms:

- Really boring tuck.
- 1-way back design.
- Lack of color.
- Is that a f^&*ing bird..?

Some (more) appropriate criticisms:

- Really boring tuck.
- 1-way back design.
- Lack of color.
- Is that a f^&*ing bird..?

Can't say I disagree about the first 3 points, and I would even add that the courts are underwhelming - somehow LESS impressive than the other cards.

But I really do like the intricate "clockwork" aspect of the (all different) number cards, and the effort that has been put in is commendable. Definitely far from awful...

BTW, yes, it is an effing bird, if you are referring to the first Joker design. In Europe during the plague, doctors wore face masks made up of goggles and shaped like a bird's beak with primitive "air filters" (really just a piece of cloth soaked in perfume) to combat the stench of their patients and in an attempt to prevent infection (which was suspected, incorrectly, to be air-borne). And yes, they were made of leather, but that does not make them a weird gay BDSM fetish... unless, of course, it does.

I just can't get over how weird and inconsistent those renderings are. That overlay effect or whatever it is, some have unrounded corners, etc.

Can anyone enlighten a poor noob as to what this is about ? What should I be seeing here ? Any and all tutorials, 101's or masterclasses welcome, no matter how condescending. Genuinely... please school me !

ALR wrote:

I just can't get over how weird and inconsistent those renderings are. That overlay effect or whatever it is, some have unrounded corners, etc.

Can anyone enlighten a poor noob as to what this is about ? What should I be seeing here ? Any and all tutorials, 101's or masterclasses welcome, no matter how condescending. Genuinely... please school me !

I just meant how the digital renderings of the cards look, visually. When you want to fund a deck that hasn't been printed yet, you have to digitally "render" them, or draw them, or make some kind of visual representation of how the finished product will (hopefully) look like. I've seen a lot of these done badly, unrounded corners for example are a classic little mistake. But I've never seen this before, where some of them look like a smaller card on top of a larger, completely white card.

OCD? Me? Nooo...

MagikFingerz wrote:

ALR wrote:

I just can't get over how weird and inconsistent those renderings are. That overlay effect or whatever it is, some have unrounded corners, etc.

Can anyone enlighten a poor noob as to what this is about ? What should I be seeing here ? Any and all tutorials, 101's or masterclasses welcome, no matter how condescending. Genuinely... please school me !

I just meant how the digital renderings of the cards look, visually. When you want to fund a deck that hasn't been printed yet, you have to digitally "render" them, or draw them, or make some kind of visual representation of how the finished product will (hopefully) look like. I've seen a lot of these done badly, unrounded corners for example are a classic little mistake. But I've never seen this before, where some of them look like a smaller card on top of a larger, completely white card.

OCD? Me? Nooo...

I assume you're talking about this:

Decknowledgy wrote:I assume you're talking about this:

Those are the unrounded corners, yes.

The other thing I'm talking about is this:

Thanks for the explanations and illustrations.

So both issues are with the presentation of a "3D" image derived from "2D" original artwork, not with the original artwork itself ?

I was concerned that the artwork had some fundamental error that I could not recognise (e.g. a square shadow effect being cast by a rounded object), or contravened a printing convention or requirement (e.g. minimum border width) because despite the issues raised in this thread, I still kind of like these cards.