[Jock1971] My Collection

[volantangel]

Hey jase, I've just realized that the boxes for the Thomas de la rue set you sent me had a black top and white base, but the one you just acquired is actually the reverse, were they a different version ? Just curious.

And yes that siriol clarry deck is stunning as well, the colorful deck looks pretty sweet too

[dazzleguts]

Interesting extra cards with that Bezique deck J. Funny that they call the cards 'pneumatic' - I guess for the airflow over the cards?

Hi Dazzelguts i always enjoy your comments,as they always send me on a quest to find out more for you.

Thanks Jase My curiosity drives some people crazy so just let me know if I ask too much.

Isn't that wax paper rather than plastic sealing the last Waddingtons decks?

Yes it is Wax Paper , i wasn`t trying to mis-lead,my brain just couldn`t come up with the words to describe the wrapping -even though i know what wax paper is. if that makes any sense.

Perfect sense since my own ability with words is tenuous and erratic. I have a great vocabulary but it's often misplaced.

Thank you for the close ups of the de la rue extras. I was able to read that the pneumatic cards had dimpled backs and smooth fronts to allow air between the cards.

[Mike Ratledge]

Thanks Jase My curiosity drives some people crazy so just let me know if I ask too much.

Isn't that wax paper rather than plastic sealing the last Waddingtons decks?

Yes it is Wax Paper , i wasn`t trying to mis-lead,my brain just couldn`t come up with the words to describe the wrapping -even though i know what wax paper is. if that makes any sense.

Perfect sense since my own ability with words is tenuous and erratic. I have a great vocabulary but it's often misplaced.

Thank you for the close ups of the de la rue extras. I was able to read that the pneumatic cards had dimpled backs and smooth fronts to allow air between the cards.

Just my observation and I'm certain that Jace has seen a ton more than I have, but most of the tax-sealed decks have a webbed type paper that is somewhere between what we would call waxed paper and a fabric, I have to assume to make it more difficult to remove the tax overwrap and use it again? Jace - doesn't that jibe with what you've seen? I Know I've seen a couple of pretty old decks that are more like an onionskin paper or maybe a bit heavier kind of like a 30# bond we used to call "kraft paper" or "poster paper".

[Jock1971]

Hey jase, I've just realized that the boxes for the Thomas de la rue set you sent me had a black top and white base, but the one you just acquired is actually the reverse, were they a different version ? Just curious.

And yes that siriol clarry deck is stunning as well, the colorful deck looks pretty sweet too

Hi Volantangel , i don`t know if there was many versions of this deck,i doubt it as was printed to mark the 125th anniversary of De La Rue playing cards,but as to how many print runs were made i don`t know. There`s two on e-bay at the moment and both have black bottoms and white lids,More information about this deck can be found at http://WWW.WOPC.co.uk/delarue/picart/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
I also seen Roberts comment in your thread. i guess he has the plastic case inside the card outer sleeve and just remembers the box?? or his plastic box has been lost over the years as most of the card outer boxes have been lost like your set.

Thanks Jase My curiosity drives some people crazy so just let me know if I ask too much.

Just my observation and I'm certain that Jace has seen a ton more than I have, but most of the tax-sealed decks have a webbed type paper that is somewhere between what we would call waxed paper and a fabric, I have to assume to make it more difficult to remove the tax overwrap and use it again? Jace - doesn't that jibe with what you've seen? I Know I've seen a couple of pretty old decks that are more like an onionskin paper or maybe a bit heavier kind of like a 30# bond we used to call "kraft paper" or "poster paper".

Hi Dazzelguts ,Keep the comments coming i`ve no problem with trying to answer if i can.
Hi there Mike i seriously doubt i`ve seen more tax-sealed decks than you , and as seen above i`m not very good at describing what`s in front of me, Most of the one`s in my collection are wrapped in cello or plastic (like the stuff modern decks are wrapped in) but a few are wrapped in thick wax paper (just about see through)that is oily to the touch.i have a couple what looks like wax paper but not oily when touched.Sorry i can be of much help for you -jase-

[Mike Ratledge]

Yeah, sorry - my description could be better. I'm thinking it's some sort of webbing or whatever to keep it from being removed and re-used, that's all. Not really 'fabric' like I said above. I have seen quite a few that have just a plain overwrap without it, also. In my mind I don't see any particular pattern except that at one point somebody was obviously trying to get around the "three pence" tax and reusing those wrappers...

[Jock1971]

Some cards i got in this week,first up a result of a trade.

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Thanks Kai. i think i got the better end of the deal, i can`t wait for your "Underwater" experiment.
Next up my Requiems arrived on tuesday ,it seems like old news now after seeing everybody elses arrive before mine.

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Next up a pair of Fed 52`s. Slowly making my way through my want`s list.

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And last today a nice Waddington`s single deck.

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Thank you for looking at my cards.-jase-

[Eoghann]

I always fear looking at this thread because chances are you've obtained decks I've been looking for a while! The Siriol deck....

Nice one!

[volantangel]

Haha heck ive got the far better end of the deal than you jase ! Ill make sure its worth your while the next time we trade ! The last box with the dog on the deck is interesting, reminds me of a small powder box

[SBurk49]

Still waiting on my Requiem decks ..I know they are coming though
A couple of weeks ago i decided to hit my wish list hard ,starting with Jacksons Federal 52 series,so looked on e-bay . nobody in England ,or anywhere else except a couple in America (Gamblers etc) so Gamblers it was i ordered both fed 52 branded & unbranded, thinking i`d do two every couple of weeks incase something happened so i wouldn`t loose to much money in one go. so they are somewhere on the Atlantic.
Monday i looked on e-bay again and 1 person in England had 3 of the others (YES YA BEAUTY) Good prices (Another YES YA BEAUTY) i got all Three.He`s got all Four Holmes decks as well he`s selling. Them are MINE. He`S saving them for me till i get some spare change.
Once again i thank you for taking the time to look at my cards -Jase-

In case no one is keeping track, Thats like $500+ on these cards. I stopped counting after $500. I want the Fed52 series too. But not bad enough to shell out $250 to get them all. 5 decks for $250 is not a good deal to me yet. I cringe to think of the day that it will.

For now, Its cheap decks on sale to expand the collection. lol

In short, Jase, I'm friggin jealous of you dude.

[Jock1971]

I always fear looking at this thread because chances are you've obtained decks I've been looking for a while! The Siriol deck....

Nice one!

Thanks Eoghann, I fear looking all over this forum for fear of the same thing. will give you aheads up if i find another siriol going cheap.Thanks for looking at my cards

Haha heck ive got the far better end of the deal than you jase ! Ill make sure its worth your while the next time we trade ! The last box with the dog on the deck is interesting, reminds me of a small powder box

Hi there Volantangel, The box is interesting, Padded front with ribbons around the sides. very smooth to the touch with a 3-D effect. very cool. looking forward to future trades,my friend.

In case no one is keeping track, Thats like $500+ on these cards. I stopped counting after $500. I want the Fed52 series too. But not bad enough to shell out $250 to get them all. 5 decks for $250 is not a good deal to me yet. I cringe to think of the day that it will.

For now, Its cheap decks on sale to expand the collection. lol

In short, Jase, I'm friggin jealous of you dude.

Hi there SBurk49, Thanks for looking at my cards. I thought it best to get the Jackson Robinson decks now while i can, before the price goes higher and lesser become available for sale. The quality of the cards justify splashing out for a pair of these decks every now and again.
Here`s Jackson`s Sherlock decks i got Friday.

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Thanks for looking at my cards -Jase-

[Jock1971]

First up is a new British deck called Forest playing cards by Yama Zhang.

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Found this deck on Etsy.com,Bit expensive at £18 . But i managed to get some Waddingtons decks cheaply ,to even the score out a bit .Scans of the "Forest" deck can be found in the english thread of "Worldwide".
Next up Two Waddingtons, the first a Large index Pack, the deck is sealed in cellophane..The Ace of Spades used is a Special Ace only used in these packs.

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The Second are a pair of advertising decks in a Travel case ,both cellophane wrapped then paper tax wrapped.It has DeVibees-Aerograph advertised on the card backs.

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Last is a De La Rue Bezique set . The Joker is a standard Goodalls but was used by De La Rue and later by Waddingtons as well.

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Thanks for looking at my cards -Jase-

[Jock1971]

After Showing `how to date Waddington Aces` a few post ago, I though about doing one for Alf Cooke.
In 1866 Alf Cooke set up as a General Printers, In 1925 they started producing Playing Cards under the name Universal Playing Card Co Ltd.

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In 1970 Alf Cooke sold the playing card company to Waddingtons,who eventually discontinued the courts and brand around 1975.

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Apart from a few Special Aces, Alf cooke had only One standard AoS design.this has 5 different variations.

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1.The most Common , "Co Ltd" Shading on the inner Spade (c.1925-1955)
2. "Co " only with the inner spade white (c.1930-1940)
3. "Co" only with the inner spade shaded (c.1950-1955)
4. "Alf Cooke" added (c.1956-1970)
5. Name removed and used by Waddingtons (c.1975)

Thanks for looking at my cards and i Hope this helps You roughly date Alf Cooke decks. -jase-

[Jock1971]

I Got a few Uusi decks from JP playing cards today, after taking advantage of the offer they had on wednesday.

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Excellent service once again from Paul, I thought i had a 50/50 chance with the offer of getting a random Bicycle deck for every £20 spent, Turned out not too bad
I got this set from e-bay. My sealed deck must have came from a set like this (no wonder the tuck was mint)

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All four packs are opened,The Ace used is pre 1957. The set has a Board "miniature Layout" and Paper counters seen in the middle of the cards.
Next up a couple more Uusi decks.

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Very Nice indeed. Thats another four struck off my modern deck wants list.
Next up a Waddingtons silver jubilee deck. This deck is at the cheaper end of the price scale and was a lot more numerous than the more expensive double decks at the higher end.

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Thanks for looking at my cards -Jase-

[Jock1971]

I got a kickstarter in on Saturday,CMYK playing cards by Hundred Million.

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Next a Canasta set by Waddingtons, this set has three packs of cards included, Notice the Card Value & description on the faces.

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Finally Got round to getting a Ignite deck. The Infinity deck i`ve had for a while and the Animal Kingdom deck i got last week along with the Ignite.

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And last today a B.P Grimauld Tarot set.

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Thanks for looking at my cards -jase-

[dazzleguts]

I have a mint deck of that Waddingtons Canasta with the points. I found it sealed in cello but with no box. Nice to see the set it came from. Is there a year on that set Jase?

Do you have many tarot decks?

[Godzillian]

Awesome collection. I am especially in envy of those Transducers and your Coca-Cola collection. Where did you get the Transducers from? Do you put your decks on display?

[Jock1971]

I have a mint deck of that Waddingtons Canasta with the points. I found it sealed in cello but with no box. Nice to see the set it came from. Is there a year on that set Jase?

Do you have many tarot decks?

Hi Dazzelgits , i don`t know the exact date of the canasta set somewhere between 75-95. i`ve only this tarot set i got cheap on e-bay. Not too keen on them but have seen some nice ones out there so who knows i might get a few more?

Awesome collection. I am especially in envy of those Transducers and your Coca-Cola collection. Where did you get the Transducers from? Do you put your decks on display?

Hiya Godzillian . The transducers i got from a private seller on e-bay .i get most of my new decks from e-bay only a few from kickstarter and proper card sites. i have my collection in Cases and plastic boxes as i`ve no room.The different box sizes of the old decks would be a pain to display properly.
Thanks guys for looking at my cards -jase-

[Jock1971]

First up today some Red & Blues.

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Next up a double pack from Hoyle,i posted this in another thread a while ago but decided to put here incase anyone missed it.

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OOOH that `s a bit fuzzy.
Next up a recent adddition to my Karnival set. The Porcelain deck was one of the freebie`s from JP`s when i got the UUSI decks

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And last today a nice double from Congress. The backs have "Daughters of the british empire in U.S.A 1920" on them. Don`t know how to date these as they have oN code on the AoS.

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Thanks for looking at my cards -jase-

[dazzleguts]

"Around 1965, USPC began the practice of "pre-facing" some decks, especially Congress decks. This means a supply of faces were printed then stored so the backs could be added as needed. Therefore, Congress cards and any other pre-faced brands stopped using the codes altogether."

I know that doesn't really pinpoint it, but at least we know they are from after 1965. Copied that from Lee Asher's site.


I noticed you have a lot of double decks and sets Jase. Is that by choice or chance?

[Jock1971]

"Around 1965, USPC began the practice of "pre-facing" some decks, especially Congress decks. This means a supply of faces were printed then stored so the backs could be added as needed. Therefore, Congress cards and any other pre-faced brands stopped using the codes altogether."

I know that doesn't really pinpoint it, but at least we know they are from after 1965. Copied that from Lee Asher's site.


I noticed you have a lot of double decks and sets Jase. Is that by choice or chance?

Hi Dazzelguts . Thanks for the information .As always i`m very grateful for any info about my cards.

My collecting is basically choice and chance. This first Double was by choice, i seen it on e-bay and got it for £10 with postage, i got the set because of the Plastic card tray ,i haven`t got any set like this The tucks are Plain white with only a card back stuck to one face.

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The next double was obtained by chance. i got this set in a 20 deck lot on e-bay which i got for £35 + £3.50 P&P.
Out of 20 decks i got 2 good Double decks and 5 good single decks. the rest were 3 doubles with wrong tucks,no tucks,badly damaged tucks and the rest was single decks with no tuck ,bad tuck or advertising decks.

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Here`s a nice 6 Deck Bezique from goodalls. I got this set on e-bay from the Lady who sold me the Siriol Clarry deck.

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And last but no means least a Waddingtons sealed deck.

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Thanks for looking at my cards -jase-

[Jock1971]

First up is a Waddingtons Calypso set.

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Not quite sure if this looks better than the De La Rue set?
Next up a strange deck from 1979 ."The Deck of Cards" produced by Andrew Jones Art,London.this deck features 56 British contemporary artists who were commissioned to contribute to this deck,each cards represents the original work of a different artist. There is a booklet to explain who the artists are and explains the inspiration for each piece.

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And next up a Single deck from Alf cooke.

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And another New Bond deck from Alf cooke,This one is from the "Pin-Up" range.Most of the Pin-Up decks i`ve seen have a Red 2 Part box as the tuck,but i`ve seen a few in this style of tuck.

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Once again thanks for looking at my cards - jase-

[Jock1971]

Got a kickstarter in this morning . "Parrots of the world" by Renee LeCompte. The 2nd Deck is for a friend who has an aviary of Cockatiels.

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Her next deck "Strigiformes - An Owl Deck" look`s very interesting. Images of this deck can be found in the Custom Deck Drafting Board.
Next up a 4 pack Bezique set from De La Rue.This set is almost identical to the Double set near the top of the page except these AoS`s are standard Goodalls.

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Next up a Alf Cooke Deck.

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And last today a very nice Waddington`s.

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Thanks for looking at my cards -jase-

[dazzleguts]

Love that 555 tuck box. They really wanted you to know that deck number!

Reminds me of the made in China decks that always have some prominent 3 digit number. You know - the decks not made for a particular company, but imported to fill a cheap card deck spot on someone's shop shelf. I have a small collection of some with interesting boxes and card graphics.

[Jock1971]

Love that 555 tuck box. They really wanted you to know that deck number!

Reminds me of the made in China decks that always have some prominent 3 digit number. You know - the decks not made for a particular company, but imported to fill a cheap card deck spot on someone's shop shelf. I have a small collection of some with interesting boxes and card graphics.

I have seen those cards you`re talking about scattered about but haven`t any.
i got a kickstarter in today. i like getting kickstarters in especially when i don1t need to pay extra custom fees.

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Haha Killer Clowns i got a Uncut as well to take advantage of an offer of some Oblivion decks.
Here`s a nice liitle Waddingtons Patience set i got for £1 of e-bay. both packs are sealed 1 blue back and 1 pink, the instruction booklet is missing.

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Here`s the Oblivion decks i got with the Killer Clowns.

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and last another patience deck .this one`s from Goodall & sons and is Paper tax wrapped.

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Thanks for looking at my cards -jase-

[Jock1971]

Here`s some new decks i got in recently.i got these from JP playing cards. Excellent service as always.

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Very nice indeed
Next up a pair of Boxed Waddingtons

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Some more newbies from Jp`s

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And last today a Old De La Rue pack. notice the legend "Card makers to His Majesty King George V"and the Old style Joker.

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Thanks for looking at my cards -jase-

[dazzleguts]

Cool Jase. I pick up patience and miniature decks whenever I can. Really like that pattern on the back of the tax wrapped Goodall deck.

Have you seen the I. Hardy and I. Kirk replica packs with the elaborate tax wrappers? They're made for re-enactment groups and they're even tied with string. Scroll down to "Hardy - Copy" and click on it.

http://plainbacks.com/index%20for%20facsimile.html

You can buy them here from the original producer of them:

http://www.williamsburgmarketplace.com/ ... &langId=-1

http://www.williamsburgmarketplace.com/ ... &langId=-1

I thought of them because the wrappers feature similar dedications to royalty as your De La Rue.

[Jock1971]

Hi Dazzelguts. Thanks for the links i`ve never seen those before .i really like the fables deck, am seriously thinking about getting the pair in a month or so . i recently purchased a waddington`s deck with the second Ace they produced,that and a few others have blown my buget for this month
i had just finished taking photo`s of the above deck and some others for the weekend when i read your post. so had my "damaged tucks"box already out, it has some Patience sets in i wasn`t going to show but heres some waddington decks.

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This next deck is my smallest . it was in amongst a joblot .At first i was going to bin them but i`ve played a few games of solitaire with them and think they are great for that.

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I got this next set on e-bay. Can somebody explain why they come in this "onion Bag" did the seller just put them in there as padding or what. I could understand it being a promotional thing if it had the Bicycle brand on the bag .But its just a plain bag.

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And last today an old pack from the manufacturer "Mardon,Son & Hall". i have noticed a few of these decks recently on e-bay and will post some pics of some more of the one`s i have at the weekend along with the waddingtons i mentioned above. that is unless some kickstarters come in during the week (i`m expecting a couple in soon).

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Once again thanks for looking at my cards -jase-

[dazzleguts]

I like that goofy miniature deck. The smaller cards are easier to use for the solitaire games that require a large lay-out so I use them a lot too. My own smallest deck is a 1/12 scale Japanese Hanafuda deck, though i don't know any solitaire games to play with it. At that scale it's actually difficult to see anyways.

The heritage sets came from Theory 11 in those "special" burlap bags. I love that you called it an onion sack. Always thought it was disappointing that they published them with standard modern Bicycle faces rather than using something contemporary to the great old backs.

[Jock1971]

The heritage sets came from Theory 11 in those "special" burlap bags.

Hi There dazzleguts .Thanks for the information. This makes sense as i bought a few T11 decks from the same chappie. Although i can`t see anything "Special" about the bag .
A kickstarter came in today. "Global Unrest" by UC`s very own Robert Tomlinson. There was a free Coin and Poker chip in with the Cards. Thanks for that Robert.

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I backed the tier with the 2 Global Unrest decks and 2 Civil Unrest decks.

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For anyone who do not know, Robert is currently working on the 3rd Part to his "Unrest" Series which is titled "Colonial Unrest" and the work in progress can be seen in the Cutom deck drafting forum.
Next up as Promised a Early Waddingtons which has the 2nd Ace. Waddingtons had to withdraw their 1st Ace after Goodalls complained that it was very similar to their Ace at the time.

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This Ace was used between 1922-1928, It was gradually replaced by the Standard "Lace" style Ace that was introduced in 1925.
Next up a deck produced by Waddingtons Specially for Henry Plafairs of Picadilly London.

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The Tuck isn`t in very good condition, but as this is my only example of this Ace it will do.
Thanks again for looking at my cards -jase-

[Jock1971]

Hiya,Starting with a nice Bicycle Double today.

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this next one is a Caspari Bridge set i got from e-bay.

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The next photo has a couple of decks from Ellusionist.

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and last one tonight,an old Double from Mardon,son & hall.

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Thanks for looking at my cards -Jase-