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wow, you've really done a great job at seamlessly merging both back designs! very cool! :)
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I personally felt that the first design was somewhat incomplete and actually liked the second design, but this latest back is awesome! Great job! :ugdance:
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Love it! Much better with the addition of elements from the first back. It's a good combination that has the best of both. Nice work.
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I love the fact that you are sharing your process with us, and that we can contribute to your brainstorming. It is fun to see the evolution of this deck. As always, you know I'll be in. :)
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I also love that you are sharing here and taking in put from these very knowledgeable members, myself not really included lol. I still prefer the original. I do appreciate all the work in coming up with the other candidates.

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I love the bottom-left design on that 12-design image you posted :D
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Thanks! :mrgreen:

@STLBluesNut , I agree with @shermjack. I posted that first image as a concept only. I knew the design will be updated anyway. As I show the process please prepare to see some so called "good designs" trashed.

Faces are not completed but I am planning to launch my campaign this weekend if nothing happens.

I'll work on the back today. Maybe make just some changes. This concept is final.

As I like both designs :ugking: I am thinking of printing 2 decks. Two? No! Three! Same faces. I cannot guarantee but who knows.

THIS IMAGE IS MY HEADACHE NOW :lol: White, Black, and Red TIKI? :mrgreen: OMG.

p.s. 50% probability

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THIS IMAGE IS MY HEADACHE NOW :lol: White, Black, and Red TIKI? :mrgreen: OMG.
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I hope! Really want to print 3 backs! :mrgreen:

Black Tiki can be even more different. Something like this. By the way, NEO style back of the box

UPDATE: Three back designs will be used to print 3 decks (or 2+2).

Black Tiki back confirmed! 100%
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Need some work on the Red Tiki design.

I'll probably use this for White Tiki. OR I can still produce 4 boxes but two decks. Black + White boxes will share Black Tiki design and Red Tiki will use it's own. Maybe with a second box. Much easier to produce two decks than three.


But using this back for both boxes (Black and White) will make everything easier to manage.
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Hi! It's not the best time of the year to launch this project. I'll announce a new launch day when I know. Also prefer to finish most of the cards before the launch. January 2nd?
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Happy New Year!!! :ugdance:

My 2019 goals - at least 6 decks (Hello Tiki, Glide, Lino, H***, SF****, P***) :mrgreen:

1. Finally. Planning to launch this Saturday (Sunday NZ time). Time TBA.

2. Two decks printed by USPCC (Red and Black/White Tiki). Tree boxes (Red, Black, White).

3. Boxes will be printed by Gambles Warehouse with up to 4 foils and embossing (stretch goal).

4. Box design - TBA

5. Red Tiki back design (95%):
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Hi! :mrgreen:

Project launch times. No EB = No rush. This time I"ll try to use just three levels - NZ/USA/Worldwide. I'll think about EB but cannot guarantee.

Prices (shipping included, up to 12 decks):
NZ: US$11.7-16.6
USA: US$12.4-17.3
Worldwide: US$13.7 - 18.6

Example for 3 decks (shipping included)::
NZ: US$13 per deck
USA: US$13.7 per deck
Worldwide: US$15 per deck


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Updated tuck box (three foils and embossing stretch goal). This design is almost final.

UPDATE: new bottom/back
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montenzi wrote: My 2019 goals - at least 6 decks (Hello Tiki, Glide, Lino, H***, SF****, P***) :mrgreen:
I bet you're also working on all 6 simultaneously lol. And obviously, living in Tomorrowland (aka New Zealand), you must be stealing hours in the day from the rest of the world while we're all sleeping! No wonder I've been waking up feeling more and more tired lately - you're stealing my beauty rest hours so you can keep designing non-stop! HOW DARE YOU! ;) :lol: :lol: :lol:

Btw, the deck looks awesome and thanks for posting the time zone conversions :)

Good luck! (Not that the campaign for this deck will need lol) :D
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PipChick wrote:I bet you're also working on all 6 simultaneously lol. And obviously, living in Tomorrowland (aka New Zealand)
Not only! You forgot about SUMMER time :geek: Not a day but +6 months in advance.

I work on one deck at a time. If no progress I can think about something different. By the way! All I am trying to do is to re-draw a standard deck of cards ... huge progress here - one card 50% completed. But it's too boring so I relax working on custom decks :lol:

btw new top of the box:
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montenzi wrote:
PipChick wrote:I bet you're also working on all 6 simultaneously lol. And obviously, living in Tomorrowland (aka New Zealand), you must be stealing hours in the day from the rest of the world while we're all sleeping! No wonder I've been waking up feeling more and more tired lately - you're stealing my beauty rest hours so you can keep designing non-stop! HOW DARE YOU! ;) :lol: :lol: :lol:
Not only! You forgot about SUMMER time :geek: Not a day but +6 months in advance.
OH, so you're stealing our nice weather and sunshine now TOO!!! Damn you Kiwi and your beautiful hobbit country!! ;) lmao :lol: :lol: :lol:
montenzi wrote:By the way! All I am trying to do is to re-draw a standard deck of cards ... huge progress here - one card 50% completed. But it's too boring so I relax working on custom decks :lol:
If that's the case, I can only imagine how mind-numbing it must be for you to see designers release recolor after recolor of completely standard cards... :ugthink: :lol:
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PipChick wrote:If that's the case, I can only imagine how mind-numbing it must be for you to see designers release recolor after recolor of completely standard cards... :ugthink: :lol:
Not really. I am ok as it's not my business. But if I need something standard I have $2 Bicycle decks in my "collection". I have only opened two standard decks - Cobra and Monarch. That's it.

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Live now!

Found first incorrect pledges :D

It's easier to use this ready to use price table:

Or just N * ($17 for NZ, $18 for USA and $20 for INT) + NZ$8 shipping. Where N is a number of decks.
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While I'm very grateful that designers share their works in progress with us here, I have to say it hasn't had a positive effect on me regarding this as well as the NEO Wave decks. In both cases I have really liked the initial designs shown, and by the time the project launches it has changed so much that it's basically a different deck. I still liked NEO Wave enough to back, but sadly that's not the case this time.

Montenzi: I don't want to discourage you from sharing your progress, just explaining my point of view (would be cool to hear if anyone else has had similar experiences, so I know I'm not crazy :mrgreen:). I still wish you all the best in getting this project funded, of course!
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I agree with you! That's why most of my next decks will be presented in a final version. :D

But Neo Wave's original back is another story and I still love that back and the box! I'll probably use that design to print something small and .. standard. Hello Tiki first back was not ok at all, sorry.
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I agree with sharing a more finalized version. I like having input in a campaign when possible, but it can get a little crazy with all the designs being thrown around here.

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I agree! I am too crazy when I work :lol:

By the way - what is more important - to produce this box with foil and embossing earlier or to produce two decks first and then upgrade boxes?
Boxes could be upgraded at NZ$11k. Almost same level ($13k) to print Black/White Tiki deck with standard USPCC box.

To summarise changes made in this campaign from the beginning (...and you are lucky - you have not seen my first box design) :D :

I think it's a big improvement:
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I like the foil and embossing idea
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macstrat wrote:I like the foil and embossing idea
you are not alone. For some reasons I like this idea. hmmm.
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Ok.

Stretch goals updated: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mo ... ts/2383402

Foil and embossing will be available by default but our 2nd deck (Black/White Tiki) will be produced at NZ$19000 only.
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I think I am with MagikFingerz on this one. I liked the original back design much much better than the final.

The only thing that may sway me in the end is the foily tucks.

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STLBluesNut wrote:I think I am with MagikFingerz on this one. I liked the original back design much much better than the final.

The only thing that may sway me in the end is the foily tucks.
Ok :uggrin: Feel free to print a deck using this design at MPC :)

Free for personal use. Just download and use this image to print your deck

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p.s. this back is not finished, but I don't have time to fix it. Sorry. You can also use the Adobe Illustrator file to create your own version.

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montenzi wrote:
STLBluesNut wrote:I think I am with MagikFingerz on this one. I liked the original back design much much better than the final.

The only thing that may sway me in the end is the foily tucks.
Ok :uggrin: Feel free to print a deck using this design at MPC :)

Free for personal use. Just download and use this image to print your deck

Red: http://montenzi.nz/old/red.jpg
Olive: http://montenzi.nz/old/olive.jpg
Gold: http://montenzi.nz/old/gold.jpg
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p.s. this back is not finished, but I don't have time to fix it. Sorry. You can also use the Adobe Illustrator file to create your own version.

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