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It'll kinda suck if the decks are ready to deliver around the holiday season where it's busy and screw ups are more likely to happen.

brownsl wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:09 pm Also, I am confused about the levels as I checked the cost of them and noticed that Manic is $57 while Asylum is $133.50. Asylum gets twice the decks as Manic so shouldn't Asylum be $114 a month? Right now, Asylum is almost $20 more a month or $240 a year more than 2 Manics. Am I missing something here?

I show them as being 55 euros for manic and 105 euros for asylum

I checked Patreon and it shows the Asylum Tier at $108.50 per month (sold out). Manic tier is $70 per month. I verified my charge of a Manic tier is $70 per month and $4.70 in tax for November. I hope that helps

Ok, I am very confused. This is what is shows for me. I have been charged $133.50 for Asylum for the last year.

Perhaps there was a price change, or some issue with the way that patreon displays the prices - try messaging Lotrek through patreon to inquire

I also pay the same for Asylum (133.50), and seeing what Bradius reports for Manic (70 rather than 57) it does seem Asylum is slightly less than twice the cost of manic

I suspect Lotrék manages the prices in euros so maybe something is skewed because of automated conversion from euro to dollar?

What year's Patron deck would that be hsbc?

I think I remember seeing sketches of this during the first year when I was a patron, but memory is foggy lol, It's been a while.

Yeah, that is odd brownsl. I see something completely different. Since I am in the Manic Tier, I can say that I am paying $70 per month plus $4.70 in tax. There may be some changes depending on the currency, but not that much. I don't think there are different amounts for different people (like an early bird tier). Maybe it is showing an incorrect amount now that the tier is closed, but that doesn't make any sense either. Anyway, I hope the amount I am paying at least assures you some that the Asylum tier is not getting a raw deal next to the Manic Tier (what we are really paying). i would bother Lotrek about it, except I want him to stay busy getting those decks produced and shipped!

I am paying 55€ plus VAT which is 19%, for a grand total of 65.45€ per month.
For me it shows Manic at 55€ and Asylum at 105€.

With the vat added the numbers are pretty close - conversion could account for the rest.

I think we are quickly coming on another bonus deck for waiting based on Lotrek's crazy plan to reward original patron's for the extended waiting. We should get them in about 48 months I think. No rush Lotrek

I think the last I remember was everything would ship around December. Hopefully he does another update soon

I’ve been a Patreon goin on 2yrs.

Regardless of the lack of decks we’re supposed to receive, the overall lack of communication is what’s driving Lotrék supporters away. It’s been said before by others.

How many decks have we received by being a member to the amount of decks paid for; on-top of being a member?? It’s not weighing out…

If your printing time is limited to just 1 week per every month it may be time to open your own print shop.

Numbers don’t lie, 242 subs at a min of $40/month is over $9,600+ a month x 12 months = over $116K+ year

We’re does most of that go???
Surely not to printed decks in my hands…!

Im not expecting a deck a month like Jackson but a Test print for the year isn’t cutting it.

Alex, get your shit together for god sakes… your excuses are running thin and it’s time to put the meat on the bones and get shit movin to YOUR SUPPORTERS.

Showing IG post of “foiling gone bad” isn’t helping your case. ppl are asking for an update. Can we at least get that?
And maybe this time give us something positive instead of something always negative.

It’s not easy watching a payment go to you and not see results and a update on “delays decks Redemption Story” isn’t taking off for many here as well. I guess with that delay to, will see a 12-deck shipment in 2025 for 2022/2023 year??

I’m starting to think you really enjoy watching others money go down the drain every time a print run is off. The print shop must LOVE you!!!

Yesterday he said on Instagram he would do a Patreon update, but the update, like the cards, is delayed

Lotrek had a release of extra Redemption Stories Vol 1 decks. We were limited to 2 extras (we all get one if we have been waiting for like 2 years for our rewards), I was pleased that they didn't sell out in a couple of seconds and got my two extras. I was surprised they were still open for several hours and sent a message if I could pick up any extras. i didn't hear back and noticed a couple of hours ago that there was only 1 left. I figured at that point that I was going to have go live with three of these. I just noticed they are all gone. I guess we will be getting something before too long.

Those in the asylum now understand more intimately while it is the asylum! Those folks should get some extras...

What? What sale? Where was this announced?
This is the first time I hear about it...

If you are a Patron you should have gotten an email with details.

I checked now and understood what happened.
My December payment did not went through so Patreon doesn't consider me a Patreon anymore. So, no email from Lotrek.
I had payment issues before, but as far as I remember I was still considered a Patreon.
Must mean Patreon changed their mode of operation...
Shame that the sale happened in the 2-3 day window that I have problems.

HFMJ - Message Lotrek. He typically keeps a few back for shipping issues, so he may be able to help you out. If you have been a Patreon for the full two years, then you will be getting one of the decks as a gift. I had an issue with Patreon once and it was an pain to sort out.

Weird. Usually both of my subscriptions (S17 & Oath) are auto debitted simultaniously. This time Oath debit was delayed (not from my side) and I though just - well, it's Oath so nothing unusual. I didn't got a mail though, too. What did I miss?

If you can view the last two posts on Patreon, you can get caught up on what you missed. It was the extra deck he is sending to Patrons that have been waiting since his start of Patreon. Option to purchase two more of the same deck. 50 euro each.

You should download the Patreon App on your phones. That normally gives you an earlier update before the email goes out.

I actually use the app but I rarely allow apps to send notifications because they annoy me. S17 is spaming too much, haha. I caught up now though and as I get a redemption deck anyways, I'm fine with missing out on extras. At the price point it doesn't make sense for me personally either. Big shoutout to everyone supporting Lotrék by purchasing the extras .

With USD 116k+ Patron money/year I'm sure the poor fellow needs all the support he can get LOL

PS: It's a joke

Anyone have a count (or a list) of how many decks we're supposed to be receiving? Like it's gotta be at least a brick right? If anyone has been keeping track. So far I got, multiples depending on tier:

Royal Silk Patron's Edition
Royal Silk (optional purchase)
Royal Silk Gift Edition
Patron's Golden Tier
Golden Rule
Royal Patrons
Redemption Stories Vol I - Royal Silk RED
Redemption Stories Vol II

(also side note, am I the only one who dislikes the names that have Patreon in the decks name? Like Patron's deck, Royal Patrons, etc. I wish we got new original deck names that aren't related to the platform they're coming from)

bdawg923 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:48 am Anyone have a count (or a list) of how many decks we're supposed to be receiving? Like it's gotta be at least a brick right? If anyone has been keeping track. So far I got, multiples depending on tier:

Royal Silk Patron's Edition
Royal Silk (optional purchase)
Royal Silk Gift Edition
Patron's Golden Tier
Golden Rule
Royal Patrons
Redemption Stories Vol I - Royal Silk RED
Redemption Stories Vol II

As far as I'm aware this is the list of Patron decks available/forthcoming:

Year 1 -
Royal Silk - Red
Patrons Playing Card - Foiled Edition
Royal Silk Special Edition - Dual Foiled (Gift for Year 1 Patrons)
Patrons Playing Cards - Standard Edition (Already shipped - 1x Free deck with Maestro III purchase + Option to purchase extras)
Redemption Stories Vol I - Red Silk Test Print (1x Free deck for Yr 1/2 Patrons + Option to purchase extras)
Redemption Stories Vol II - Due End December.
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Royal Silk - Purple (Not a Patron deck but a separate sale via Oath website.
Royal Silk - Purple Test Print (1x Free deck to those who pre-ordered the Official edition + Option to purchase extras. Already shipped.)
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Year 2 -
Golden Rule
Royal Patrons
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We also had the Icons Anniversary edition release recently (Again not a Patron deck but a separate sale via Oath website).

Let me know if I've missed anything

While not a deck, Year 1 will also receive a custom box sized for the number of decks received in a tier.

I saw and received the first email about this on Saturday. My current issue is being resolved, I didn't want to spend more money yet but either I'll wait on the official version or might trade a purple test deck for this red test deck.

which week was shipping supposed to be for redemption deck?

double_left wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:45 am which week was shipping supposed to be for redemption deck?

On his Dec 2 post, he said all decks would be "sent next week", which would suggest last week. He said they would be sent from Greece, so I dont know if we will get a shipping notification, but I have seen anything yet.