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Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2026 11:45 am
by balrog326
Hey Strag could you also help me out in contacting him I have the the exact same issue as HFMJ? Received the icons instead of Qualif
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2026 2:37 pm
by Bikefanatic
GW printed the labels (for Mystery III) since Jan 8th and still no signs of being shipped yet...
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2026 3:15 pm
by Adamthinks
Bikefanatic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 14, 2026 2:37 pm
GW printed the labels (for Mystery III) since Jan 8th and still no signs of being shipped yet...
Mine arrived yesterday.
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2026 3:32 pm
by Bikefanatic
Adamthinks wrote: ↑Wed Jan 14, 2026 3:15 pm
Bikefanatic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 14, 2026 2:37 pm
GW printed the labels (for Mystery III) since Jan 8th and still no signs of being shipped yet...
Mine arrived yesterday.
Was your tracking working or did it just popped up?
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2026 3:50 pm
by brownsl
Bikefanatic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 14, 2026 2:37 pm
GW printed the labels (for Mystery III) since Jan 8th and still no signs of being shipped yet...
Same with me, no movement. It says shipping by DHL and delivery by USPS. I also checked the provided USPS tracking number and it also shows no movement. Sigh. I do find it a bit frustrating that this happens with GW. They print the label and says it has shipped but it sits there until the get a truck load?
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2026 3:54 pm
by Evilgamer
brownsl wrote: ↑Wed Jan 14, 2026 3:50 pm
Bikefanatic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 14, 2026 2:37 pm
GW printed the labels (for Mystery III) since Jan 8th and still no signs of being shipped yet...
Same with me, no movement. It says shipping by DHL and delivery by USPS. I also checked the provided USPS tracking number and it also shows no movement. Sigh. I do find it a bit frustrating that this happens with GW. They print the label and says it has shipped but it sits there until the get a truck load?
Exactly this, GW ships with a freight consolidator who will regularly sit on packages in Texas until they either fill a truck or hit a weekly cutoff and will then send it.
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2026 4:06 pm
by Adamthinks
Bikefanatic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 14, 2026 3:32 pm
Adamthinks wrote: ↑Wed Jan 14, 2026 3:15 pm
Bikefanatic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 14, 2026 2:37 pm
GW printed the labels (for Mystery III) since Jan 8th and still no signs of being shipped yet...
Mine arrived yesterday.
Was your tracking working or did it just popped up?
I hadn't been checking it so I'm not sure. It shows delivered now and has all of the progress of the shipping showing, but I don't know if that was showing before yesterday. There have bene plenty of times Lotrek stuff has just showed up without any shipping updates though.
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2026 5:15 pm
by Evilgamer
Mine did actually come in today and it's the ridiculous foiling that we come to expect and love from Lotrek. The art is SLIGHTLY darker than rubiyat players and I do have a few cards that show some missing ink but...this is a really good deck.
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2026 6:00 pm
by KGthePrince
Anyone on the west coast get theirs yet?

Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2026 7:38 pm
by Adamthinks
KGthePrince wrote: ↑Wed Jan 14, 2026 6:00 pm
Anyone on the west coast get theirs yet?
Me
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2026 7:40 pm
by Adamthinks
Evilgamer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 14, 2026 5:15 pm
Mine did actually come in today and it's the ridiculous foiling that we come to expect and love from Lotrek. The art is SLIGHTLY darker than rubiyat players and I do have a few cards that show some missing ink but...this is a really good deck.
Agreed, gorgeous deck...but the courts are still weirdly dark. Though its not as bad as in the test edition.
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2026 4:30 pm
by Bikefanatic
Finally some "movement", still in Texas while USPS is awaiting package.
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2026 9:54 pm
by theOutsider
I got mine today. I thought Crypt was Mystery 3?
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 11:01 am
by Leachy19
theOutsider wrote: ↑Thu Jan 15, 2026 9:54 pm
I got mine today. I thought Crypt was Mystery 3?
What do you mean? This deck has always been referred to as Mystery III.
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 11:50 am
by theOutsider
Leachy19 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 16, 2026 11:01 am
theOutsider wrote: ↑Thu Jan 15, 2026 9:54 pm
I got mine today. I thought Crypt was Mystery 3?
What do you mean? This deck has always been referred to as Mystery III.
01/2018 was Mystery deck 1: Arabesque
08/2018 was Mystery deck 2: Damask
03/2020 was Mystery deck 3: Crypt
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 12:21 pm
by Strag
Paging Kevork, the Oracle of Lotrek...paging Kevork....
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 1:48 pm
by kevork
Lotrek February, 12, 2024 wrote:There is a reason why we are doing Mystery decks. Actually two reasons: First, these decks are so special that if you see pictures or renderings (which never do justice to the final product), all the magic and the excitement of the first sight is lost. And second, these decks are so insanely expensive to produce that we need to raise the funds beforehand. Therefore, a sight unseen sale is necessary. So far, this practice has given 3 legendary decks (if you count in CRYPT). Seems it works...
It seems Lotrek himself recognizes Crypt, but has kept that separate from the Mystery branding. Who's to say but I suspect it's likely due to the intention/premise behind Crypt being a bit different. It's a deck you are intentionally not meant to see without having it in hand.
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2026 2:04 pm
by theOutsider
kevork wrote: ↑Fri Jan 16, 2026 1:48 pm
Lotrek February, 12, 2024 wrote:There is a reason why we are doing Mystery decks. Actually two reasons: First, these decks are so special that if you see pictures or renderings (which never do justice to the final product), all the magic and the excitement of the first sight is lost. And second, these decks are so insanely expensive to produce that we need to raise the funds beforehand. Therefore, a sight unseen sale is necessary. So far, this practice has given 3 legendary decks (if you count in CRYPT). Seems it works...
It seems Lotrek himself recognizes Crypt, but has kept that separate from the Mystery branding. Who's to say but I suspect it's likely due to the intention/premise behind Crypt being a bit different. It's a deck you are intentionally not meant to see without having it in hand.
Much appreciated.
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 6:41 pm
by Fenrir
Saw this today on Facebook. The poster seems to be really unhappy with Lotrek in general but does anyone have any more info on this?
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1Kjvkg ... tid=wwXIfr
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 6:48 pm
by kevork
The comment by Mark in that thread seems to explain it. Lotrek miscalculated how many Qalif decks he needed for Mystery III backers who didn't pay 10€ shipping to get the deck back when it was initially offered up.
Qalif has a print run of 700, plus another 75 he printed and marked out of B75 (indicating "backup 75"). Here's an example from eBay:
Seems like something went wrong with the math overall.
What sucks is people who expected a Qalif deck ended up getting ICONS Anniversary or Sanctissimus Gilded deck which isn't comparable to what was originally promised.
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 7:35 pm
by Adamthinks
Damn. That's the second time he's shipped for this project with some sort of issue (foiling issue previously) and didn't mention it at all. That's.....pretty crappy. Like, shit happens...but you have to communicate what's going on.
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 7:49 pm
by brownsl
Criminy, I am quite frustrated by all this. It is ridiculously confusing on what we are supposed to get and when we are supposed to get it. I received my Mystery III decks and did not receive an additional deck. Should I have?? The time from ordering something from Lotrek and getting it is so incredibly long I forget the details.
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 8:08 pm
by theOutsider
brownsl wrote: ↑Sun Jan 18, 2026 7:49 pm
Criminy, I am quite frustrated by all this. It is ridiculously confusing on what we are supposed to get and when we are supposed to get it. I received my Mystery III decks and did not receive an additional deck. Should I have?? The time from ordering something from Lotrek and getting it is so incredibly long I forget the details.
I think you needed to visit his website and make the request. Here's a portion of the email from 1/27/25.
"All of you who have preordered the MYSTERY III deck will get 1 QALIF deck for free!
Here is how:
- If you purchase one or more copies, the free deck will be automatically added to your order which will be sent in a few days.
So, if you buy for example 2 decks, you automatically will receive 3.
-If you don't wish to buy more copies and you only want your free deck, you have two options:
Option 1: You chip in to shipping (€10) and you have your free copy sent to you now
Option 2: You do nothing and you get your free copy together with the official MYSTERY III deck, when it will be shipped.
In order to claim your free copy or purchase more decks, you must go to the password protected QALIF page in our website, entering the password: filaq
There you will select the product "QALIF playing cards" for the additional decks you want, or the product "QALIF shipping" to get just your free deck now.
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 8:41 pm
by Fenrir
Thanks for the explanation Kevork. That really helps. Unfortunate situation.
I can’t imagine this will help, all things considered.
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 8:54 pm
by brownsl
Thank you, that brings it back to me! I did do the preorder but recall not paying the extra as I was fine just waiting. Apparently, I was one of those that got nothing.
Where was it mentioned that he did not have enough Qalif decks and some people would get a different decks, and others nothing?
Also, should this gift deck show up in the Qalif preorder invoice?
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:04 pm
by CourtCurator
Well, this is a cluster.

The lack of communication regarding this issue and the unequal replacement was a really poor decision. Being upfront about it could have saved a lot of heartache and hassle, by allowing those who were effected to suggest a solution that works for them. Personally, I think he should have offered a free copy of Epiphany since there isn’t anything else of comparable quality in stock.
I have to admit that I was worried that not paying to ship my copy of Qalif would result in problems. I feel really lucky to have waited and got it along with Mystery III.
All that said, Mystery III is stunning.

Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:53 pm
by hsbc
brownsl wrote: ↑Sun Jan 18, 2026 8:54 pm
Also, should this gift deck show up in the Qalif preorder invoice?
If I understand your question, I did the Qalif pre-order a year ago and I can't find any sort of confirmation email - I only remembered to expect it because I have a "Paid orders" list that I try to keep updated so I know when things go missing
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 10:21 pm
by KGthePrince
My order doesn't arrive until Tuesday. I guess I'll see which group I end up in

Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 10:31 pm
by brownsl
hsbc wrote: ↑Sun Jan 18, 2026 9:53 pm
brownsl wrote: ↑Sun Jan 18, 2026 8:54 pm
Also, should this gift deck show up in the Qalif preorder invoice?
If I understand your question, I did the Qalif pre-order a year ago and I can't find any sort of confirmation email - I only remembered to expect it because I have a "Paid orders" list that I try to keep updated so I know when things go missing
I believe the Qalif gift deck was given when the Qalif deck was preordered, but that it would ship with Mystery III? If so, I was wondering if on the invoice for my Qalif paid purchase, it would show a line item for the free Qalif deck. Do I have anything given to me that said I would receive the gift deck?
Re: OATH'S PATREON -details
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 11:17 pm
by Bikefanatic
The Mystery III deck is so smooth and nice to do fans with. I noticed it's the same velvet color as the original Icons Imperial deck from about 10-11 years ago.
I pre-ordered my decks on 2/14/24 so I should be getting a free deck too? Yea an Epiphany deck would be nice.