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Nevermind, I logged into Patreon and seen the info.

It's €125 for the original and €150 for gilded for public release. I take it this is one way to remedy the lack of Patreon revenue as these are close equivalents to what a "price per deck" would be for Patronage. It's still quite a hefty sum to fork over at once, and if I wasn't a completionist of Lotrek's works, I would have just bought the standard version. I wonder what additional information we will receive as Lotrek was quite adamant about there not being test prints sold, etc. While it's nice to see the evolution of a deck over time, it does take away from the wow factor of a final release; Golden Rule fell to this fate, I believe.

Compared to trying to pick up many of these decks on the secondary, these prices are a dream!

Azid wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:16 pm I'm a Golden Patreon but i can't read the post that made ~2 hours ago with the title "Decision made". To read that i would have to "upgrade" to the 5$/month tier..... no password for me....

I'm having the same issue.
It won't even let me upgrade to the $5 tier to read the post.
I'm guessing Lotrek set the message to Patreon only rather than public.

JacksandJokers wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:39 pm

Azid wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:16 pm I'm a Golden Patreon but i can't read the post that made ~2 hours ago with the title "Decision made". To read that i would have to "upgrade" to the 5$/month tier..... no password for me....

I'm having the same issue.
It won't even let me upgrade to the $5 tier to read the post.
I'm guessing Lotrek set the message to Patreon only rather than public.

This is ridiculous, i can't even make a comment anymore & it won't let me "upgrade" aswell. (which i do not really want to)

Also the communication: In the Patreon post from yesterday it says release is delayed to monday , while on Instagram i could already see the date and time.

And about the More Red post from kevwork, i didn't get that either. (yes i purchased a black friday bunde) Today i got a e-mail from Deutsche Post that something from Oath is on the way but not the message that kevork posted earlier. (Where did that come from? )

I feel a little ghosted


Edit: A new patreon post with the password was sent out a few minutes ago. (Don't know which tiers can read that one), Now i was able to order in the patreon section on Oath's website.

Azid wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:43 pm This is ridiculous, i can't even make a comment anymore & it won't let me "upgrade" aswell. (which i do not really want to)

And about the More Red post from kevwork, [...] (Where did that come from? )

It was sent via email.

I believe Lotrek just reposted on Patreon, this time with the post being public, to help remedy the issue many were having. Thankfully this is a preorder so you have time to purchase the decks, but the preorder window has not been specified at this time.

Azid wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:43 pm
Edit: A new patreon post with the password was sent out a few minutes ago. (Don't know which tiers can read that one), Now i was able to order in the patreon section on Oath's website.

Yes, I can see it now & have the password

Unfortunately, Patreon doesn’t allow paused Patrons to comment and also doesn’t allow me to pause billing for specific tiers. There is nothing I can do, except having the posts public…

I indeed sent again the last update so that everyone can see it. Not all can comment though. Same problem.

Thanks for the help, Kevork!

kevork wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:58 pm

Azid wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:43 pm This is ridiculous, i can't even make a comment anymore & it won't let me "upgrade" aswell. (which i do not really want to)

And about the More Red post from kevwork, [...] (Where did that come from? )

It was sent via email.

I believe Lotrek just reposted on Patreon, this time with the post being public, to help remedy the issue many were having. Thankfully this is a preorder so you have time to purchase the decks, but the preorder window has not been specified at this time.

In his post a few days ago he noted "It will last the whole January and production will begin immediately after the preorder period."

Lotrek wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 6:36 pm Unfortunately, Patreon doesn’t allow paused Patrons to comment and also doesn’t allow me to pause billing for specific tiers. There is nothing I can do, except having the posts public…

I indeed sent again the last update so that everyone can see it. Not all can comment though. Same problem.

Thanks for the help, Kevork!

Thanks for explaining, i don't have insight in patreon functions from a creator side, but is it possible to send out DM for specific tiers ?
Maybe make the post with all info's public and send the password to relevant groups with DM?
Edit: I just saw in my patreon that a few updates were sent only per DM but that was ~ 2 years ago.

brownsl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:08 pm The Epiphany decks are now available for Patrons. Nongilded deck is €115 ($135) while the gilded deck is €135 ($158). I think this pricing is a bit outrageous to be honest. I am not sure I can pay these prices.

No kidding, I was on board for these, but those prices are absurd. Im out now, just on principle.

Edit: I looked back on my Mysetry III receipt, and this is the same.price. I guess I'd forgotten that. Damn though, that's still a crazy amount for a single deck. Not sure if I can justify that again.

that is a steep deck I was going to pick up both but Im likely to just stick with the gilded.

Seems like people aren't buying as much as they used to including myself. I have a few other hobbies.

These are among the highest price of his released decks. Epiphany, Qualif, Crypt and Golden Oath.

brownsl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:08 pm The Epiphany decks are now available for Patrons. Nongilded deck is €115 ($135) while the gilded deck is €135 ($158). I think this pricing is a bit outrageous to be honest. I am not sure I can pay these prices.

Mine’s on €125 for Original and €150 for Gilded.
Maybe since I am non-Patrons, pricings are bit steep for me?

Contemplating between…. Getting Original OR Gilded

i decided to go for one Original.

A Damask Red (#165/400) reached an auction price of $672us on SoCal today
That is over $1,000 Aussie. Incredible
Compare it to a limited edition print by a full scale artist (easy to do, if you think of it uncut)
That is a lot for a 400 edn print (unframed)
What would the original handmade be worth (not that many card artist's work that way)
$33,000us/$50,000au ?

A thing's worth is only what one is willing to pay for it, in my view. I'm not willing to pay these prices myself.

Lotrek wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 6:36 pm Unfortunately, Patreon doesn’t allow paused Patrons to comment and also doesn’t allow me to pause billing for specific tiers. There is nothing I can do, except having the posts public…

I indeed sent again the last update so that everyone can see it. Not all can comment though. Same problem.

Thanks for the help, Kevork!

Completely missed the patron post, can’t message, can’t comment. Would rather pay 5$ a month to have a reliable way of getting updates for patrons.

Well the good news is I finally received my two Mystery III decks in the post. The bad news is I didn't get the promised free Qalif deck. Did anyone who didn't buy the Qalif decks when they were first one sale get their free deck in their package?

Just a note that I have already exchanged emails with Lotrek and we have come to a more than fair resoluton on this issue. I doubt others will experience the same issue, it was due to the confusion that I caused when I placed an order for Qalif when they were in stock, a few months after the initial offer to order.

Finallyyyyyyyyyyyy got confirmation Mystery III is shipped

KGthePrince wrote: ↑Thu Jan 08, 2026 3:03 pm Finallyyyyyyyyyyyy got confirmation Mystery III is shipped

Same. Excited to finally have it.

I got a notice as well, though it just says the shipping label is created. It can take GW several days to actually get it to the carrier but its progress

Do your guys tracking emails show Qalif too if you're waiting for it?

I’m waiting on Qualif and do not see it on the tracking notification. Mine is pretty confusing though. I ordered 2 Mystery III decks, but I ordered them on different days. I got two shipping notices, both of which say they contain 2 Mystery III decks. Not sure what to expect when they get here.

It looks like my memory is faulty. I went back and looked at my order emails. I can only find one order for two Mystery III decks, but I swear I went back to the well for more. Maybe I ordered three, or four…I can’t rember at this point.

If this reassures you, I made two orders for Mystery III and my shipment is accounting for the entire total.

I had bought from the Patreon sale and the public sale since Lotrek had mentioned finding a way to differentiate between the two. I don't believe that was actualized, however.

Epiphany preorders will end on January 20, 2026 FYI

Strag wrote: ↑Thu Jan 08, 2026 1:35 pm Just a note that I have already exchanged emails with Lotrek and we have come to a more than fair resoluton on this issue. I doubt others will experience the same issue, it was due to the confusion that I caused when I placed an order for Qalif when they were in stock, a few months after the initial offer to order.

Hello, could you please tell me what email you used to reach Lotrek?
I am in a similar situation. I received the Mistery deck, but instead of Qalif I got an Icons deck...
I already used the form on Oath website, but no response yet.
Thanks!

HFMJ wrote: ↑Tue Jan 13, 2026 6:42 pm

Strag wrote: ↑Thu Jan 08, 2026 1:35 pm Just a note that I have already exchanged emails with Lotrek and we have come to a more than fair resoluton on this issue. I doubt others will experience the same issue, it was due to the confusion that I caused when I placed an order for Qalif when they were in stock, a few months after the initial offer to order.

Hello, could you please tell me what email you used to reach Lotrek?
I am in a similar situation. I received the Mistery deck, but instead of Qalif I got an Icons deck...
I already used the form on Oath website, but no response yet.
Thanks!

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