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I watched it 50 times already.

Best trailer that I've ever seen.

Looking like the best movie that will ever be released.
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TwoPiece wrote:I watched it 50 times already.

Best trailer that I've ever seen.

Looking like the best movie that will ever be released.
This is exactly why I don't watch trailers :lol: I end up being overhyped and the movie can at best only meet my high expectations, because exceeding them would be impossible. Going in blind makes me enjoy movies more.

Not a criticism to those who watch them. Just sharing my experience :geek:
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TwoPiece wrote:I watched it 50 times already.

Best trailer that I've ever seen.

Looking like the best movie that will ever be released.
This is exactly why I don't watch trailers :lol: I end up being overhyped and the movie can at best only meet my high expectations, because exceeding them would be impossible. Going in blind makes me enjoy movies more.

Not a criticism to those who watch them. Just sharing my experience :geek:
You didn't see the Infinity War trailers? Best trailers ever, and the movie still exceeded expectations.

Trailers don't matter unless you're Warner Bros. They don't know how to drop DC trailers without spoiling half of the fun.

Star Wars: The Last Jedi's trailers were 10 times better than the movie...

Most trailers are good/great without spoiling anything. Marvel Studios is historical for their misdirection. More than half of the promotional material was either completely unused or changed within the film. They know how to attract hype and then surprise you.
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I doubt I could have loved Infinity War any more anyway, so I don't think the trailers would have made any difference.

I hear you, but the few trailers that do fudge things up ruin it for the rest of 'em IMO. I'm also not sure that being misdirected by trailers is necessarily a good thing. Again, this is for me personally.
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Spider-man FfH trailer coming out yet? So many fake and news on the trailer on youtube right now.

BTW, love that Marvel still put humor in such a grim and dire circumstance that the Avengers face. DC just can't seem to make the humor seem natural and seemless in their movies.
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Eric Lee wrote:Spider-man FfH trailer coming out yet? So many fake and news on the trailer on youtube right now.

BTW, love that Marvel still put humor in such a grim and dire circumstance that the Avengers face. DC just can't seem to make the humor seem natural and seemless in their movies.
Far From Home trailer has been delayed. Not sure why. Allegedly, they plan on releasing it next Monday, December 17th.

I don't want every comic book movie full to the brim with humor. Man of Steel and Dawn of Justice are both great movies with little humor. It works.

There's no gravity to movies like Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2. I guess it all depends on your taste. When something massive is at stake, though, there's needs to be some realistic seriousness presented. Infinity War provided absolutely perfect levity to the film.
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TwoPiece wrote:When something massive is at stake, though, there's needs to be some realistic seriousness presented. Infinity War provided absolutely perfect levity to the film.
That's exactly what I meant. I was thinking of Suicide Squad as the main offender for the DCU. So far, I can only think of WW as the one with the right level and timing of levity. (Haven't managed to catch JL yet after 1 yr)
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Eric Lee wrote:
TwoPiece wrote:When something massive is at stake, though, there's needs to be some realistic seriousness presented. Infinity War provided absolutely perfect levity to the film.
That's exactly what I meant. I was thinking of Suicide Squad as the main offender for the DCU. So far, I can only think of WW as the one with the right level and timing of levity. (Haven't managed to catch JL yet after 1 yr)
Suicide Squad is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. It's up there with The Last Jedi and Punisher: War Zone.

Justice League is just too short, too much of Snyder's vision was removed and changed, and Whedon tried to insert too much humor that just doesn't fit the team chemistry. It's a good movie, but it had the potential to be great. It's still worth seeing.
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Aquaman is a solid 4.5/5. I highly recommend.
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Looking forward to Aquaman. Looking forward to Spiderman and Captain Marvel and Avengers: End Game.

But, I'm still really ticked that Daredevil got cancelled. The more time goes on, the more annoyed with that I become.

And, Guardians of the Galaxy 3. That, likewise, is getting me increasingly annoyed.
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rousselle wrote: And, Guardians of the Galaxy 3. That, likewise, is getting me increasingly annoyed.
The firing of James Gunn, or the uncertainty of its future (director, release, etc)?

While Marvel Studios has 2 films planned for release in 2020, nothing for Phase 4 outside of Spider-Man Far From Home is expected to be confirmed, until after Avengers: Endgame.

I don't think I mentioned it here, but I'm glad that they cancelled Daredevil, because I'd like to see him in the MCU at some point in the future. Feige would never allow any Marvel TV characters or events crossover INTO the MCU (despite Marvel TV taking cues from the MCU). Daredevil is a historical, and entertaining, character.
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When they fired James Gunn, an angel had its wings pulled off.
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rousselle wrote:When they fired James Gunn, an angel had its wings pulled off.
I think they threw out his script, too.

I would personally have liked to see him complete the trilogy, if nothing other than to see him complete his vision, but... I think he was in-line to direct the next crossover film (Avengers or otherwise) and I don't think I would be a fan of his style impacting such an event.

So, short term I think it'll hurt the MCU, but long-term I think it'll help.
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I just rewatched Infinity War last night. It really is a well made piece of entertainment. I'm very much looking forward to Capt. Marvel and End Game.

The "one last" bit is ominous, but that last line is really quite funny.

Regarding James Gunn: they threw out the script? Those ever-loving m--- f---s.

F--- Disney right in the ear.
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rousselle wrote:I just rewatched Infinity War last night. It really is a well made piece of entertainment. I'm very much looking forward to Capt. Marvel and End Game.

The "one last" bit is ominous, but that last line is really quite funny.

Regarding James Gunn: they threw out the script? Those ever-loving m--- f---s.

F--- Disney right in the ear.
I watched it 90 times in 2018 lol. I'm gonna watch it 10 more before Endgame's April releases.

It makes sense to throw out his script for a couple reasons:

1. If they do complete the trilogy, then the writers and director can work on something together, instead of story designed by people who're no longer involved.
2. I am hoping that this opened up Adam Warlock being involved in Endgame and possibly other films sooner than GotG Vol 3.

I'm sure that they also want to wash their hands of having to credit him with any part of the movie, too. Avoid potential backlash and financial holdout from viewers. Not that I agree with this point, but it makes for a logical business decision. I'm not in love with the Guardians as much as many others are.

Rocket is awesome and so was Gamora. Groot is lukewarm. Drax is okay for comic value and the occasional heartfelt moment. Peter is just a Stark/Lang clone. Mantis and Nebula both blow.
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So does DC's recent movies spell hope for the the DCU movies? With WW, JL and now Aquaman being solid movies, I hope they can continue that trend.

Taking a chance on unestablished non-blockbuster directors like Marvel did to give their movies a unique direction that's different from the rest. This trend can only mean good things for movies in general when studios are willing to gamble on directors like that.
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Eric Lee wrote:So does DC's recent movies spell hope for the the DCU movies? With WW, JL and now Aquaman being solid movies, I hope they can continue that trend.

Taking a chance on unestablished non-blockbuster directors like Marvel did to give their movies a unique direction that's different from the rest. This trend can only mean good things for movies in general when studios are willing to gamble on directors like that.
Justice League was middling at best. It was a Frankenstein monster cut. We need the Snyder Director's Cut.

Aquaman, while loved by audiences, is still very much maligned by critics (as every Worlds of DC movie has been). So it's pretty much status quo.

People want to focus on how 'little' early Worlds of DC films have earned. Well... So did Marvel Phase 1 prior to The Avengers! As Worlds of DC grows - so will its generated box office revenue. That's why Aquaman is a financial success. It's DC's 6th movie. Suicide Squad is really the only bomb, and you can compare that to Marvel Studio's The Incredible Hulk of their first 6 releases.

I'm not sure if you're claiming that James Wan is not an established director. He's very well-known. He did a great job, and his Director's Cut received 2 thumbs-up from Zack Snyder (who IMO is one of the best directors you can think of).

Also, Captain Marvel Trailer #3 dropped on Monday evening. It looks good. I have my tickets for a pre-screen and also for opening night.
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TwoPiece wrote:
People want to focus on how 'little' early Worlds of DC films have earned. Well... So did Marvel Phase 1 prior to The Avengers! As Worlds of DC grows - so will its generated box office revenue. That's why Aquaman is a financial success. It's DC's 6th movie. Suicide Squad is really the only bomb, and you can compare that to Marvel Studio's The Incredible Hulk of their first 6 releases.

I'm not sure if you're claiming that James Wan is not an established director. He's very well-known. He did a great job, and his Director's Cut received 2 thumbs-up from Zack Snyder (who IMO is one of the best directors you can think of).

I'm not so much into the box office hype. Just look at Transformers. Mega box office crap and it even enticed Bay to come back and do the 5th movie when he said was stepping away from the franchise. I was so disappointed ! :?

James Wan is established, but , arguably, only in the Horror genre. (besides Furious 7, which may be why DC took a chance on him?)

Also, Captain Marvel Trailer #3 dropped on Monday evening. It looks good. I have my tickets for a pre-screen and also for opening night.

ooo, thanks for the heads up. Will check it out when I have time.
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Eric Lee wrote:
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People want to focus on how 'little' early Worlds of DC films have earned. Well... So did Marvel Phase 1 prior to The Avengers! As Worlds of DC grows - so will its generated box office revenue. That's why Aquaman is a financial success. It's DC's 6th movie. Suicide Squad is really the only bomb, and you can compare that to Marvel Studio's The Incredible Hulk of their first 6 releases.

I'm not sure if you're claiming that James Wan is not an established director. He's very well-known. He did a great job, and his Director's Cut received 2 thumbs-up from Zack Snyder (who IMO is one of the best directors you can think of).

I'm not so much into the box office hype. Just look at Transformers. Mega box office crap and it even enticed Bay to come back and do the 5th movie when he said was stepping away from the franchise. I was so disappointed ! :?
I don't really care about box office numbers, either, but for whatever reason a lot of people do. I always read/hear, "it's not making money so I'll catch it on Netflix/TV". I only care about well-directed and well-written stories. You need to have both great visuals and great characters (and development) for me to have a good time. Even in comedies, you can have great jokes, but Anchorman 2 sucks because of how useless the story is.

A great triple-threat in the coming months. Captain Marvel in March, followed by Avengers: Endgame in April, and Godzilla: King of the Monsters in May. A lot of good times ahead methinks.
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Forgot to write this when I first saw it, but holy smokes Aquaman was a blast. Just a fun experience that still had heart to it. A bit of a silly movie perhaps, but it's Aquaman starring Jason Momoa. It was just freaking perfect.

Anyone who hasn't seen it, go see it while it is still on theaters.
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Räpylätassu wrote:Forgot to write this when I first saw it, but holy smokes Aquaman was a blast. Just a fun experience that still had heart to it. A bit of a silly movie perhaps, but it's Aquaman starring Jason Momoa. It was just freaking perfect.

Anyone who hasn't seen it, go see it while it is still on theaters.
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I think Jason Mamoa is great in anything I've seen him in. He has the charisma, the comic timing, the gravitas. He's awesome.

The director of Aquaman, much like Zack Snyder, has an excellent eye for capturing moments that evoke their comic book counterparts. Brilliant eye candy.

Wan also imbues the movie with a sense of self awareness that I appreciate.

For all that... the Moments feel unearned. When every shot is a Moment, when everything shouts THIS IS IMPORTANT, it leaves the experience counter-intuitively underwhelming. The soundtrack was playing at 11 without let up for the entire run of the movie. The color saturation, the sound effects, the sheer bombast of everything was at 11 for the whole. Damn. Movie.

Don't get me wrong, it wasn't a bad movie. But, the whole was less than the sum of its parts. And frankly, for all the set pieces, I don't know that there's one that makes me say, ohhh, I want to see that again. The humorous scenes were funny, the action scenes were actiony, but there was little humor in the action scenes, and there was little urgency to the humorous scenes. This is what the teams behind the Avengers movies and the Capt. America movies (from Winter Soldier onward) got right: they found the personal within the bombastic, and they found the urgency in the quiet moments, too.

I'm glad Aquaman is getting some love. And, I'm glad I saw it. I just don't know that I have any real need to see it a second time.
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rousselle wrote:. When every shot is a Moment, when everything shouts THIS IS IMPORTANT, it leaves the experience counter-intuitively underwhelming. The soundtrack was playing at 11 without let up for the entire run of the movie. The color saturation, the sound effects, the sheer bombast of everything was at 11 for the whole. Damn. Movie.
Yes, that's exactly how I felt after the movie. I saw it on the special 40ft screen with immersive sound (extra speakers above you and around you). It was a blast to watch it in such an environment, but we left the cinema exhausted by the sheer bombardment of sight and sound.

My wife enjoyed the show, especially Jason Momoa and envied how Kidman looked at 51! However, she never asked to watch Aquaman again. She was willing to watch Bohemian Rhapsody again with her friend. She still searches youtube for more info on the movie and is now a Queen fan! That's the difference between a good and a great movie.

But I'm glad DCU is putting out better movies. With WW and Aquaman, there are a good foundation to build their movie universe. It means fans and non-DC comic fans can enjoy better movies.
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Eric Lee wrote: out better movies. With WW and Aquaman, there are a good foundation to build their movie universe. It means fans and non-DC comic fans can enjoy better movies.
I kinda have a problem with this outlook. These are comic book movies, after all. It's why I love Zack Snyder, and the Russo Bros, and couldn't care less about critical opinions.

This is the Golden Age of comic book movies. It's a time of payoff for the nerds and geeks who were bullied and/or criticized for reading comics. Comic book movies should be made for these people. Don't know who Mera is in Justice League? Read a comic book.

Zack Snyder was a godsend for people like me. It's an undeniable shame that he was fired by Warner Bros.
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Mysterio is a co-protagonist..?
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TwoPiece wrote:Mysterio is a co-protagonist..?
Maybe he's the kind of secondary villain that fights against both the hero and the main villain?
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Räpylätassu wrote:
TwoPiece wrote:Mysterio is a co-protagonist..?
Maybe he's the kind of secondary villain that fights against both the hero and the main villain?
Fitting 4 villains and an anti-hero into 1 movie? That would be tough to pull off - even for Marvel Studios.

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