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Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:46 am
by montenzi
supernova wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:44 am I think Cartamundi just introduced edge printing this year? I’m not sure how it looks like, would that be a reasonable substitute for gilding?
I saw some images, and I don't like it at all!

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:40 am
by montenzi
I'll start my printing side of the "business" from this! Mini-prints made of silver/red foil! :ugking: Made by me without outsourcing. :twisted:

Prints will be made to order (any card/artwork) and will be available on Kickstarter.


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Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:50 am
by KingfisherZero
Sold. Still disappointed I ended up not backing the previous Hello Tiki decks, but I won't repeat that mistake!

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:11 am
by brownsl
These might end up bring my favorite Tiki decks yet!

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:30 pm
by montenzi
Ok. I am not ready to launch this weekend. Most likely, next week.

I can now make two-color foil prototypes to test ideas :uggrin: Registration is off, but it's just a mockup :mrgreen:



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Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:55 pm
by Ice_Panda
I wasn't a big fan of the other Tiki back designs personally but this one is unreal! I love it! I can't wait

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:03 am
by KingfisherZero
These designs look phenomenal! Back design reminds me a bit of the Uusi Bohemia decks. Can’t wait for this to launch!

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:39 am
by montenzi
KingfisherZero wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:03 am These designs look phenomenal! Back design reminds me a bit of the Uusi Bohemia decks. Can’t wait for this to launch!
It's a problem as I have at least five good back designs, so I need some drastic actions :D
BaconWise wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:29 am
montenzi wrote:Small tweaks are still possible.
I honestly think this phrase should be in your signature line, Alex :D It's the understatement of the century and I love it.
SO TRUE :ugthink: Expect a major shakeup :twisted: It's hard to explain, but I finally know what to do.

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:18 am
by vasta41
BaconWise wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:29 am
montenzi wrote:Small tweaks are still possible.
I honestly think this phrase should be in your signature line, Alex :D It's the understatement of the century and I love it.
Yes, very funny and very true. I thought the same thing when I read this, too:
montenzi wrote:Ok. I am not ready to launch this weekend. Most likely, next week.
But I will be there in September ( :lol: ) when this campaign goes live. Looking awesome!

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:51 pm
by montenzi
Today I confirmed all FOUR back designs. :ugdance: I am not sure about gilding, but most likely, it will be silver only.

I'll post other backs later. I had to trash the red back as the most boring out of all variants. But at the same time there will be a red deck with red foil on courts... :twisted:

1. Hello Tiki White, Limited (Silver and Red foil):

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With courts:

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Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:01 pm
by Ice_Panda
Love it

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:22 am
by daddobrendt
montenzi wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:29 am If you know how to help with RED gilding in the EU, please let me know!
I believe Ondrej Psenicka was using someone in France for gilding his latest Butterfly decks. Seems like they had issues with black, but it may be worth the ask.

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:31 am
by montenzi
Brendt00 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:22 am I believe Ondrej Psenicka was using someone in France for gilding his latest Butterfly decks. Seems like they had issues with black, but it may be worth the ask.
It's a service provided by Cartamundi. They found one gilder and guarantee quality. But for now, they offer silver, gold, rose gold, and holographic gilding only. They are trying to find another company now to offer more colors.

Ok. Next version, and something new from me :uggrin: All back designs are different but in the same style.

2. It's a "craft/retro" edition with slightly off white courts. And again - I am not sure about gilding. If I offer it, there will be a non-gilded version of all decks.

p.s. all back designs will also be available as prints (A6-A3)!

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Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:50 am
by KingfisherZero
I like the contrast that the blue adds on #2. Those colors really pop!

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:10 am
by brownsl
I agree, I think the combination of colors is really good.

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:41 pm
by montenzi
3. Red Edition (LIMITED to 500-750 decks (TBC), Kickstarter and montenzi.nz exclusive)

Most likely, this edition will be the only out of three printed with foil on both sides. It makes sense as I am going to use full bleed red foil on courts. :uggrin:

There is no reason for using foil on courts on the White and Retro editions!

And yes, I have four back designs. The fourth back is a slightly modified original (find in the first post), but there is no room in this campaign anymore :mrgreen: I may print it later at USPCC.

All decks will be printed by Cartamundi so it's EU/UK/AU friendly campaign.

Changes? Tweaks? Possible! :lol:

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Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:06 am
by shermjack
Just stop it already and get that Kickstarter going! I am getting extremely impatient for these now! :lol:

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:52 am
by montenzi
shermjack wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:06 am Just stop it already and get that Kickstarter going! I am getting extremely impatient for these now! :lol:
I have already missed the August deadline, so decks should be submitted by Sep/23 and printed by Nov/9.

I tell you what was wrong - red gilding. I designed backs to use red. But then I had to redesign all backs to use silver. At the same time, new back designs are much better :mrgreen:

It's my first campaign where I designed backs to use as prints. I always wanted to try, so it's a chance as I believe that this market is much bigger than playing card collecting. For the same reason, I'll keep Hello Tiki series as it's NZ's local.

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Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:52 am
by supernova
Personally I like the back of design 2 the best. It’s a pity you can’t do red gilding - it would look amazing. You probably can if u send it to the US to be gilded by the same company that does UPSCC (and Kings Wild) decks. But the logistics would probably be tough.

Looking forward to the KS campaign.

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:22 am
by vasta41
montenzi wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:52 am ...decks should be submitted by Sep/23 and printed by Nov/9.
How confident are you? If I don't get my decks by year's end do I get them for free? :lol:

I do not care when I receive my cards, as long as I recieve them. montenzi decks are worth the wait, just like Lotrek decks. The only difference is montenzi is still in denial about the length of time between deck conception and delivery. ;)

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:35 pm
by Xarin77
Looks to be my favorite of the Tiki series so far. I have some New Zealander neighbors and gifted them a deck (we sometimes play board games together). They loved it! I'll order a few extra this time.

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:32 pm
by montenzi
vasta41 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:22 am How confident are you? If I don't get my decks by year's end do I get them for free? :lol:
Lol :mrgreen: Ok. Why do I know? Cartamundi had this procedure in the past when I printed other decks. They print custom decks once per month and need 1-1.5 months to finish. That's why they have a deadline. I tried to negotiate a week extension but failed. It's a good sign! I was told that decks are in production the next day after a deadline! Planning is key. Nov/2019-Jan 2020 downtime was an exception due to Covid/reorganization. BTW, they accepted No.7 on Feb/12 and finished in March as promised.

The current status: "Coming soon" :lol: I'll launch when I am ready as I have time to finish my KS by Sep/03.
supernova wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:52 am Personally I like the back of design 2 the best. It’s a pity you can’t do red gilding - it would look amazing. You probably can if u send it to the US to be gilded by the same company that does UPSCC (and Kings Wild) decks. But the logistics would probably be tough.
I already know that the white deck will be more popular. But if I were forced to buy one deck only, I would have ordered the "retro" edition. I designed this back with some ideas about V4, and I really like this style. I am very happy with all four designs, to be honest!
Xarin77 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:35 pm Looks to be my favorite of the Tiki series so far. I have some New Zealander neighbors and gifted them a deck (we sometimes play board games together). They loved it! I'll order a few extra this time.
Thanks! BTW, this time shipping will be flat rate ($4-5) or even free for NZ backers.

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:14 am
by montenzi
I'll try to reveal boxes this weekend. This box is a release candidate for the "Retro" edition. :twisted:

What to expect: two premium decks with foil on backs + two gilded of the same (four boxes). Fifth deck (Red edition of 500-750 decks) will only be available in the gilded version from the start.

I'll be using No7 style boxes with cold foil and matte finish. Love them!
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Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:07 am
by Fes
That last render is absolutely gorgeous. :shock: Something about it I find very dramatic. 8-)
Suggestion, desktop wallpaper size that with the KS launch date on it in the upper left corner.
(Disclaimer - This suggestion is selfishly driven. So I can get a bigger version for my own desktop background.) :D

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:37 pm
by montenzi
(1/5 and 2/5) White/Retro (gilded) Editions boxes:

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Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:24 am
by Gilded
I'm dyin'! These are so great.. I need all of them, plus prototypes!

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:54 am
by supernova
montenzi wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:37 pm (1/5 and 2/5) White/Retro (gilded) Editions boxes:

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Very nice. U decided to do gilded for all decks? :)

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:12 am
by vasta41
supernova wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:54 am
montenzi wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:37 pm (1/5 and 2/5) White/Retro (gilded) Editions boxes:

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Very nice. U decided to do gilded for all decks? :)
3 out of 5 are gilded per latest post.

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:40 am
by supernova
vasta41 wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:12 am 3 out of 5 are gilded per latest post.
Thanks. I must be blind! Glazed past that part of the post!

Re: HELLO TIKI 3rd Edition [soon on KS]

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:56 am
by MagikFingerz
montenzi wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:14 am Fifth deck (Red edition of 500-750 decks) will only be available in the gilded version from the start.
Nooooo! Now I have to hope that this edition doesn't look too good :(

#freethepip #freetheedges #gildingisnotthenewfoil #foilgoodgildingbad #nounecessarygilding #notallthatglittersisgold

Yeah, I'm terrible at coming up with hashtags...

But from half-joking to being serious; everything so far is looking very good!