Decknowledgy wrote:Most likely IG resellers like Socal or others, lots of them have been #IGCardFam-ing this deckvasta41 wrote:Not for me. I also wonder how 5K has already been pledged?
I think there's a marking system?
I wouldn't think this is a neutral way of dealing with this deck without proof that this thread is going astray, but the person who's spamming and who is the collaborator of this deck has a bad history of manipulative comments and throwing tantrums. I'd just say beware what you say on this thread and that excessive spamming (current state) should be taken into consideration for mods.BaconWise wrote:My vote would be to lock this thread down - get ahead of things. We can close it out on a civil note.
BaconWise wrote:I don't mind that Bill's here and keeping comments positive, but this feels very similar to how the Wild Boar thread began. Everything was I'm sorry you feel that way and everyone has different tastes and I respect your thoughts (I'm paraphrasing) then it turned very personal and very nasty on UC AND on KS. My vote would be to lock this thread down - get ahead of things. We can close it out on a civil note.
PipChick wrote:Bill, stop spamming this thread.
I'm consolidating your responses to specific comments into your posts because there's no reason that you need to artifically boost the reply count of this thread to make it appear as if this deck attracted more attention than it actually has and/or deserves.
same goes for Emily - you've said the same thing like a half a dozen times... we get get it - repeating spam posts have been deleted.
Click on "Post Reply" and scroll down to where you see replies to the thread in reverse chronological order. From there you can quote posts in their entirety by clicking "Quote" on the ones you want, alternatively mark only the parts you want to quote before clicking the button. The quotes appear in the text editing box wherever the "cursor" is. This can be done with as many posts as you want.billdavismagic wrote:Again, thanks for consolidating but PLEASE clarify. Otherwise I have no other way to post but "quote" otherwise "quick reply" to a single comment that is the newest. If I don't hear back from you, I have no choice but to post how I have been doing. That's not defiance, that's just all I can figure out to do. Thanks.
Forum 'etiquette' also encourages people to reply in one post, not make separate posts to answer different questions (if possible!) It's different from Reddit or IG in that way If there's more than one comment you would like to reply to, do so all at once in one post rather than in multiple back-to-back posts that, whether or not is your motive/intention, *do* in fact spam up the forum and *do* artificially boost the reply count of a thread as it's all coming from one person (ie. you)billdavismagic wrote:It's not my intent to "spam" the thread, whatever that means. It's been a while, as you know. Am I not supposed to hit "quote" to reply? The only time I get the "quick reply" option is at the bottom of the most recent post from someone, so I honestly can't figure out how to respond within a message. Thank you for consolidating them, it makes much more sense that way. But I can't figure out how to respond without my responses appearing one after the other. I thought it odd too, and figured something had changed, because all of my responses appeared back to back. Being Emily's first time here, I told her to just hit "quote" and to reply, because that's all I could figure out to do. Please advise.PipChick wrote:Bill, stop spamming this thread.
I'm consolidating your responses to specific comments into your posts because there's no reason that you need to artifically boost the reply count of this thread to make it appear as if this deck attracted more attention than it actually has and/or deserves.
same goes for Emily - you've said the same thing like a half a dozen times... we get get it - repeating spam posts have been deleted.
On a separate note, your accusation that this was to "artificially boost the reply count of this thread to make it appear as if this deck attracted more attention than it actually has and/or deserves" sounds awfully hateful and judgmental!
Again, thanks for consolidating but PLEASE clarify. Otherwise I have no other way to post but "quote" otherwise "quick reply" to a single comment that is the newest. If I don't hear back from you, I have no choice but to post how I have been doing. That's not defiance, that's just all I can figure out to do. Thanks.
Yeah, even when you explicitly solicit feedback on Instagram, the return is super slim.STLBluesNut wrote:Not many people are going to give feedback on Instagram. Her followers would likely be fans and not provide any comments except how great they look.
I try at times to give feedback on various decks on Instagram but usually if you look at comments of even crappy decks it's just fire and 100 emojis.
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Not going to let this get buried and glossed over.Harvonsgard wrote:Would be nice to know his take on this though...
He that lieth down with dogs shall rise up with fleas.emilysleights52 wrote:This isn't just Bill's campaign this time, it's mine too! I make sure everything is civil and there's no hard feelings.
Outsider wrote:Not going to let this get buried and glossed over.Harvonsgard wrote:Would be nice to know his take on this though...
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He that lieth down with dogs shall rise up with fleas.emilysleights52 wrote:This isn't just Bill's campaign this time, it's mine too! I make sure everything is civil and there's no hard feelings.
I think the point here is that people are going to judge YOUR PROJECT based on who is involved, which isn't just you. If a new sandwich chain started using Jared Fogle as their spokesperson, that would have an impact on their business, regardless of other employees, quality of product, etc.emilysleights52 wrote:Outsider wrote:Not going to let this get buried and glossed over.Harvonsgard wrote:Would be nice to know his take on this though...
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He that lieth down with dogs shall rise up with fleas.emilysleights52 wrote:This isn't just Bill's campaign this time, it's mine too! I make sure everything is civil and there's no hard feelings.
I'm sorry but you don't really know me. I don't think its fair that you're judging me based on your history with Bill. If you don't like Bill, that's fine, but you can't judge me until you know me. My instagram is emilysleights52 if you want to talk about cards or anything
It's funny cuz I feel as though only earlier today I had the very same thought when I saw this and now feel I could be saying the exact same thing to you...emilysleights52 wrote:I'm sorry but you don't really know me. I don't think its fair that you're judging me based on your history with Bill. If you don't like Bill, that's fine, but you can't judge me until you know me. My instagram is emilysleights52 if you want to talk about cards or anything
I don't use social media.emilysleights52 wrote:I'm sorry but you don't really know me. I don't think its fair that you're judging me based on your history with Bill. If you don't like Bill, that's fine, but you can't judge me until you know me. My instagram is emilysleights52 if you want to talk about cards or anything
We often observe and say the same thing about decks that are intended for or aimed at use by magicians because of that precise fact: as collectors we want something different, and by design decks intended for magicians are designed (pun intended) not to draw attention. See what I did there?brownsl wrote:Definitely be avoiding this one. Of course, even without the previous history, I have zero interest in this deck as it is just too boring.
THIS. ALL OF THIS RIGHT HERE ^Decknowledgy wrote:Explain please:
1. How does a centered marking system benefit a magician while the more common marking systems are placed near the borders for easier visibility?
2. All magicians out there talk about the importance of subtlety of the deck in order not to raise suspicion of the spectator; how is a marking system that's evidently visible card to card by the different clock hand positions hide from the spectator?
There's my honest feedback on why this deck isn't practical for magicians
STLBluesNut wrote:Emily, I do not know you at all. I have seen you pass by on insta as I look. I haven't concentrated on you to see what you are all about but my overall opinion was that you seemed very sweet.
The issue, as stated above, is your associates. Bill Davis and Daniel Madison have left a bad taste in many people's mouth due to bad business practices, behavior and attitude. To an extent, especially in business, you will be judged by the company you keep, definitely by those you partner with in a business venture.
I don't recall seeing you active here in the past, so you may not have been aware of the sentiments many share towards those 2 individuals. Even so, it will still reflect on the project.
Instagram is much different than a forum. On instagram, there isn't a lot of discussion or reading of what is under the picture. So if you were to look at the majority of their posts you would likely see fans and praise regardless of their actions as people who they have wronged or dislike them, just usually don't follow and choose not to see what they are doing.
I guess the point is, the is more to a person in the business world beyond all the fanboys on Instagram. If you choose to not research who you are partnering with beyond that, then there is a chance that partner will bring a negative impact to the project or business. You chose an unfortunate duo to team with for segments of the the card community. Myself being one when it comes to BD and DM. However, you seem, to me, to be a genuinely sweet individual trying to follow a passion and make a deck of cards.
It is unfortunate that the clip artist BD and the narcissist DM will drag you down despite their having an appearance of their cult followers.
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I was telling Victor that you were the main commenter (from what I read on Bill's project) quoting problems. I do know that you're kind of known in the community for starting things so that's why I said "That's Pipchick" No hate, just stating facts. I understand you don't like my deck and that's fine.PipChick wrote:It's funny cuz I feel as though only earlier today I had the very same thought when I saw this and now feel I could be saying the exact same thing to you...emilysleights52 wrote:I'm sorry but you don't really know me. I don't think its fair that you're judging me based on your history with Bill. If you don't like Bill, that's fine, but you can't judge me until you know me. My instagram is emilysleights52 if you want to talk about cards or anything
so Emily, please do share, what exactly were you talking about in bringing my name up in reference to that project, hm? Cuz it certainly feels like you're judging *me* based on history with Bill... which, by your own words, doesn't seem very fair since you don't even really know me, now does it? Are you trying to paint me a some kinda light or laughing it off by attaching blame to *me* for Bill's eratic behavior on that project - because that honestly couldn't be further from the truth - what's written there on his past pink boars KS project was a mess *he* made all by himself so don't even try dragging my name through it.
Thank you so much! Bill and I worked so hard on the design with Destino for months and months and paid really close attention to detail. Your words mean a lot!Bradius wrote:Emily, while I am not particularly excited about this deck, I do like your artwork in general and look forward to future playing card projects of yours.
What? Are you sure you’re talking about the same person?! The PipChick I know is more of a mediator and a diffuser of problems, most definitely not an instigator.emilysleights52 wrote:I was telling Victor that you were the main commenter (from what I read on Bill's project) quoting problems. I do know that you're kind of known in the community for starting things so that's why I said "That's Pipchick" No hate, just stating facts. I understand you don't like my deck and that's fine.
PipChick most definitely starts things. She gets people excited about Deck of the Year Awards. She gets people involved and interested in the UC community and actively recruits new voices to the forum. She is one of the most passionate and outspoken collectors you are likely to find. PipChick will go out of her way to improve this community and to help new designers make the most of a new project. If she has criticism, she is like me in that she only wants the designer to succeed because that's the best thing for the community. Collaboration and kickass decks.emilysleights52 wrote:...I do know that you're kind of known in the community for starting things so that's why I said "That's Pipchick" No hate, just stating facts.
Thank you! I like being civil tooBaconWise wrote:PipChick most definitely starts things. She gets people excited about Deck of the Year Awards. She gets people involved and interested in the UC community and actively recruits new voices to the forum. She is one of the most passionate and outspoken collectors you are likely to find. PipChick will go out of her way to improve this community and to help new designers make the most of a new project. If she has criticism, she is like me in that she only wants the designer to succeed because that's the best thing for the community. Collaboration and kickass decks.emilysleights52 wrote:...I do know that you're kind of known in the community for starting things so that's why I said "That's Pipchick" No hate, just stating facts.
As picky collectors, we can be harsh at times when a deck comes along that doesn't seem to put forth much effort or if there are elements of a deck that don't make sense the way they are presented. I provide critique for two reasons: because I want the designer to succeed and bring the best possible design to the community; and because I am a selfish bastard and want to collect the best possible designs. PipChick is even more passionate about her love for cards and what happened with Bill not too long ago was insulting to the community and we haven't forgotten about that. Despite her supporting BIll well before the unpleasantness, it turned sour and his behavior was clearly out of line, as far as this community is concerned.
When PipChick comments on a deck such as yours, she is hoping to bring to light a backstory that shouldn't be ignored. I think we have a lot to offer here at UC but we also want to be sure that we hold designers to a high standard. While it's commendable that you have close friends you associate with in Bill and Daniel, it immediately puts this project in a red flag status. Can bridges be mended with Bill and UC? Perhaps, but you were unfortunately caught up as collateral damage with some bad experiences UC members and card collectors have had with Daniel and Bill. I hope things go well with this project and we see some civility through the whole process. I just want to be sure you understand where our mama bear (PipChick) is coming from, at least from my perspective. I can't speak for her but she has to deal with it
It's official now - "mama bear"BaconWise wrote:I just want to be sure you understand where our mama bear (PipChick) is coming from
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