"Fillide - A Sicilian Folk Tale" Versions 1, 2 and In Bloom

[Decknowledgy]

Wow!!! Both the tree and the branches versions are crazy!! I originally had no opinion against the club design, but this definitely is a major rocket boost.

I agree with you, Jocu, for going with the second design. First, the back of the tuck is already revealing the back of the deck; second, the second design definitely contrasts better with the tuck color; third, the tiny dotted hue from the moonlight is just simply:

[theCapraAegagrus]

Wow, those are 1000% better. I actually like both of them.

Would it be possible to use both designs? 1 for each color?

Unfortunately embossing is the major cost that would double if we changed it for the colour variation. It'd be a few thousand if I'm not mistaken...

We've got time to mull it over so I'll wait for some more feedback and let you know our decision. We'd like to have it locked down soon but it's an important decision so we'll have a think about it. Tomorrow we'll post some new renders with both versions in both colours side by side and see what everyone thinks with fresh eyes.

Thanks as always for your help and support and see you back here tomorrow!

I'm not sure which one I like better, but I will 100% back this project now.

Edit: I actually have decided that I like the 2nd design better. This is mostly due to the back design being very 'busy'. So, on one side of the tuck you'll have tons of detail from the back, and then the front would be a cleaner look.

[hsbc]

Wow, what an improvement Matte tucks too? I'll be backing for sure

[Eric Lee]

The 2nd one for sure. The deck is based on a folk tale so the front makes it look more like a book cover, teasing the story waiting inside the box.

As said earlier by 2pc, having the full tree design already makes the box look too busy as the backs also have the same tree there.

Well, the 1st design can be a stretch goal if that's something you want to consider. Definitely backing this day 1

[Magic Tapp]

Both versions look much better than before but my preference would be the 2nd version. It gives the tuck a bit of a Japanese feel.

I also like its more muted colour palette as the yellow in the first option is a tad too aggressive to my liking.

[Jocu]

It gives the tuck a bit of a Japanese feel.

Exactly the vibe she was going for

I'll let some others comment but I'm glad that more votes are coming in for the 2nd option as that's our favourite too...

[vasta41]

It gives the tuck a bit of a Japanese feel.

Exactly the vibe she was going for

I'll let some others comment but I'm glad that more votes are coming in for the 2nd option as that's our favourite too...

If I saw the 2nd version before the original tuck (with the club outline) I probably wouldn't have said it needed upgrading since I like it just fine. But that 1st option (with the tree) pops so much more to me. I mean if the theme of this deck has to do with an almond tree why not showcase the tree? And I love the way "Fillide" stands out with the burst lines in the 1st box too. So much better IMO.
But I will still pledge if the 2nd option is chosen, just voicing my opinion.

[Jocu]

It gives the tuck a bit of a Japanese feel.

Exactly the vibe she was going for

I'll let some others comment but I'm glad that more votes are coming in for the 2nd option as that's our favourite too...

If I saw the 2nd version before the original tuck (with the club outline) I probably wouldn't have said it needed upgrading since I like it just fine. But that 1st option (with the tree) pops so much more to me. I mean if the theme of this deck has to do with an almond tree why not showcase the tree? And I love the way "Fillide" stands out with the burst lines in the 1st box too. So much better IMO.
But I will still pledge if the 2nd option is chosen, just voicing my opinion.

I hear you. I like them both! Here are some more renders of the second version to give people a better idea. The green version will be with silver foil, and the brown with gold.

[vasta41]

Fantastic. Still like the other render better though!

[STLBluesNut]

I definitely like the second option with the moon as well. In the second render, I think the little moons with the moon phases are pretty neato.


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[theCapraAegagrus]

Fantastic. Still like the other render better though!

We do have to respect Paul's opinion on this, since the only thing he ever gets to appreciate is the tuck box...

[vasta41]

Fantastic. Still like the other render better though!

We do have to respect Paul's opinion on this, since the only thing he ever gets to appreciate is the tuck box...

Hence my lobbying

[Outsider]

I gotta say, seeing the new render with both colors and a nice close view, I appreciate the detail more. I like the moon phases arranged around the center.

PS - Clearly Paul appreciates the untapped potential in a sealed deck of cards. It is a paradox, is it not? On the one hand, the deck's great value is in opening it; on the other, it will never be a better object than it is before opening it. By keeping it sealed, you leave the possibility that it may be opened at any future time, but an opened deck can never be resealed (well, not legitimately).

[dawn]

I agree with Paul that I liked the previous rendering slightly better (although I intend to open all my decks ). Either way, these decks are gorgeous and I’m looking forward to them!

[Jocu]

I did a poll on a facebook group and got 8 votes for the tree version

I notice opinion swayed a bit here once I provided our thoughts on the moon one...

Let's say if we choose the moon cover it doesn't mean the tree is dead. It may make an appearance in future depending on the deck's success... We've already spoken with some artisanal wood-crafters here for a potential collector's box in olive wood. It's too much for this campaign but who know...

We really want to avoid overcomplicating our first campaign with a collector's edition but maybe in a few months we can approach that.

[robcan0630]

I will back regardless of which image is used. I prefer the tree, but that’s only because you asked. It’s very possible that others have similar feelings.

[Jocu]

So Pantone, reading our minds, have just released some new turquoise/teal/greeny metallic inks that match the colours of our green deck. Alessandra got excited as it's her favourite colour in general.

Are there any examples of decks that have used a metallic ink for their entire back design rather than single details? I wonder how it would look or if it's overpowering/underwhelming.

I'm sure a metallic browny/copper colour exists already and it wouldn't be so expensive to add to the back...

[vasta41]

So Pantone, reading our minds, have just released some new turquoise/teal/greeny metallic inks that match the colours of our green deck. Alessandra got excited as it's her favourite colour in general.

Are there any examples of decks that have used a metallic ink for their entire back design rather than single details? I wonder how it would look or if it's overpowering/underwhelming.

I'm sure a metallic browny/copper colour exists already and it wouldn't be so expensive to add to the back...

I'm sure there are some others but the T11 Titanium's come to mind. Obviously it's USPCC but I would consider the Rider Back to be more than a single detail.

[Jocu]

So Pantone, reading our minds, have just released some new turquoise/teal/greeny metallic inks that match the colours of our green deck. Alessandra got excited as it's her favourite colour in general.

Are there any examples of decks that have used a metallic ink for their entire back design rather than single details? I wonder how it would look or if it's overpowering/underwhelming.

I'm sure a metallic browny/copper colour exists already and it wouldn't be so expensive to add to the back...

I'm sure there are some others but the T11 Titanium's come to mind. Obviously it's USPCC but I would consider the Rider Back to be more than a single detail.

They actually look really nice. But then whilst silver and gold go with the theme of nature/elements, I'm not sure a metallic green gives off the same vibe.

Still, they're nice colours and maybe in future we can put them to use.

[vasta41]

So Pantone, reading our minds, have just released some new turquoise/teal/greeny metallic inks that match the colours of our green deck. Alessandra got excited as it's her favourite colour in general.

Are there any examples of decks that have used a metallic ink for their entire back design rather than single details? I wonder how it would look or if it's overpowering/underwhelming.

I'm sure a metallic browny/copper colour exists already and it wouldn't be so expensive to add to the back...

I'm sure there are some others but the T11 Titanium's come to mind. Obviously it's USPCC but I would consider the Rider Back to be more than a single detail.

They actually look really nice. But then whilst silver and gold go with the theme of nature/elements, I'm not sure a metallic green gives off the same vibe.

Still, they're nice colours and maybe in future we can put them to use.

Others might think differently here but I think these decks would look just fine without too much metallic ink. Gold/silver metallic accents would look great on their own and probably pop more IMO.

[theCapraAegagrus]

I typically prefer the smaller details/line-work to be metallic (or foiled).

I think that this deck will look great no matter what details you decide to (or not) make metallic.

[Outsider]

If the green/teal deck comes with metallic inks or even matching gilding I'm pretty sure I'll need several.

[TheGentlemanWake]

This looks great! I’ll be backing.


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[Jocu]

This looks great! I’ll be backing.


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Im honoured ditto for the parlour. You’re doing a great thing for the community and I reckon this project will be a huge step forward for you and your subscribers.

So I know we're all card guys but I want to let all you know about some optional rewards for our campaign. We wanted to have a special 'Premium' reward tier for who each of us is as a collector. Each premium tier will feature the following...

- The specific 'Premium' Reward
- 2 Fillide Decks
- Free shipping for US and Europe
- Ability to add-on further decks for just €10

This will effectively be the most economical tier if you want the extras. If not, the most economical will always be the early birds or the half bricks/bricks as you would probably have guessed.

Two rewards that we'll be offering are below...

The Magician

Italy stopped using the Lira in 1999 and adopted the Euro. The old coins feature some wonderful references to Italian culture and none more recognisable than the goddess Minerva depicted on the 100 lire coin. For the Magicians amongst you, as one of a number of Premium Reward Tiers during our Fillide campaign, you will be able to get a set of authentic Italian lire coins in a bespoke leather pouch.

The coins are around US quarter sized, so are perfect for coins across and matrix routines. What’s more, there’s nothing more natural than transitioning from card to coin tricks if you can tie them both together with an interesting and logical story. An interesting conversation starter for those of you outside Italy




The pouches are custom made by a local leatherworker so we're in close contact and have already ordered a lot of samples to get it right.

The Gambler

I haven't written any stuff for this yet, but basically we're going to offer a coin/card guard for those guys who can't get enough of coins! I really like the way the renders have gone and whilst we'll likely offer an antique bronze colour instead of silver, here's a little look at the design (please note we are aware that the tree is off-centre, but we're still working on it )



We'll also have a couple more tiers like this where you can grab decks as well as a nice add-on without breaking the bank and especially for those guys who just want two decks, this is the best way to get them as instead of paying for shipping you get something nice

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As a note for the future we're currently working on a card clip with a manufacturer I know well, but unfortunately I don't think it'll be ready in time for this campaign. It would've been a wonderful reward but the first supplier's quality was so bad (I don't mind saying - MPC. Don't touch their card clips while they're sending out such flimsy crap) that I found a professional steel parts manufacturer in Europe who I've worked with before in my old career. Anyway, it likely won't be ready for the campaign so we'll have to wait for that.

[Magic Tapp]

Jocu - thanks for the preview. It is very helpful to understand the composition of tiers.

The coin looks very nice - I am definitely in for one or two.

[Jocu]

Jocu - thanks for the preview. It is very helpful to understand the composition of tiers.

The coin looks very nice - I am definitely in for one or two.

Great! I’ll post a preview link the week before so everyone can plan their EBs and rewards

[Decknowledgy]

How will this Premium tier work?! I'm definitely interested in a twin set plus these benefits but it would seem strange that this works as a pledge option. Anyways, I'm absolutely on board, and it would be good to know how the EB works since I'll be traveling that day and would most likely miss the immediate launch...

[Jocu]

How will this Premium tier work?! I'm definitely interested in a twin set plus these benefits but it would seem strange that this works as a pledge option. Anyways, I'm absolutely on board, and it would be good to know how the EB works since I'll be traveling that day and would most likely miss the immediate launch...

Hey! Well originally I wanted to do it as separate tiers so as not to complicate everything with add-ons but I’m also considering the standard route. I still haven’t 100% decided.

I liked the idea of simple ‘2 decks plus a gift’ tiers to avoid add-ons but I’m getting feedback that suggests people may want more than one of the extra rewards. The problem is with 2 decks and a coin, for example, I can give free shipping. On just two decks I can’t, so I don’t want people getting 2 decks and an add on and paying unnecessary shipping.

So bacially there’ll be standard 1, 2, 4, 6 and 12 deck tiers for decks only. Then there’ll be some clearly marked premium tiers that include one of the rewards, plus the add on options and prices will be listed in the tier itself.

Because of the ability to add decks for €10 at these tiers, it should eliminate the need for people to want to say, add a coin to a half brick. As they can just add 4 decks to the pledge.

I’m sure it’ll make sense when you see it - it should be a bit simpler than the standard add-on setups. I’ll be sure to post the link in good time for feedback and I’ll welcome suggestions on simplifying it

[Jocu]

Hi guys!

I know we're all hovering over our mouses (mice?) waiting for The Parlour to kick off so in the meantime here's a little update on our campaign.

We've decided, after some enthusiastically positive feedback, to do two colours of coins. One for each of the decks. The price is only a fraction more than sticking to one colour as we can make more so we'll bite the bullet. Plus it felt a little incomplete with just one. For those who like coins, check em' out and let us know your thoughts. For those who don't, read on for a tier breakdown.




Standard and Premium Tiers

Here's the current text from the campaign explaining the tier system. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. I guess this could be seen as an 'official' announcement but it's subject to change with your feedback so I'm just gonna leave it here...

Reward Tiers

Our campaign has two types of reward tiers - standard and premium.

Standard Reward Tiers

Standard Reward Tiers are simply for getting decks. You can get 1, 2, 4, 6 or 12 decks as a reward. Choose your colours after the campaign. Shipping is free* if you take 4 or more decks and there are no add-ons available to complicate your pledge. Nice and easy!

*to the US and Europe

Premium Reward Tiers and Add-Ons

Premium Reward Tiers work differently. Fillide is a project intended for all lovers of playing cards. We wanted our rewards to speak directly to who you are as a collector. That's why we've created four premium reward tiers.

The Gambler - a beautifully engraved antique-bronze plated coin to bring some magic to your poker games
The Magician - 3 authentic out-of-circulation 100lire coins and custom leather pouch designed by Jocu
The Collector - a unique, 1 of 1 edition artwork drawn, painted and signed by Alessandra Gagliano
The Jackpot - all of the above, plus a brick of Fillide cards and the option to add another brick for just €85

Our premium reward tiers offer among the best prices for Fillide decks combined with some unique add-on rewards. What's more - they come with free shipping to the USA and Europe!

Each premium reward tier comes with 2 x Fillide decks (more can be added as add-ons as described below) as well as the chosen gift. You can then add unlimited decks for just €10 each (or less for The Jackpot), making this the most economical reward tier and also the most fun.

Add-ons are also available at this level. Add a gambler's coin (€15 for one, €20 for two) or hand-drawn artwork (€40) to your pledge with no extra shipping. Further add-ons may be unlocked during the campaign.

Add-ons available only on Premium Reward Tiers. If you would like a brick (12 decks) and an add-on, it is more economical to do so by adding ten decks to a premium reward at the special rate given.

To find out about each reward in more detail, go to (Link to our site TBC)

[Harvonsgard]

The Gambler - a beautifully engraved antique-bronze plated coin to bring some magic to your poker games
The Magician - 3 authentic out-of-circulation 100lire coins and custom leather pouch designed by Jocu
The Collector - a unique, 1 of 1 edition artwork drawn, painted and signed by Alessandra Gagliano
The Jackpot - all of the above, plus a brick of Fillide cards and the option to add another brick for just €85

Our premium reward tiers offer among the best prices for Fillide decks combined with some unique add-on rewards. What's more - they come with free shipping to the USA and Europe!

Each premium reward tier comes with 2 x Fillide decks (more can be added as add-ons as described below) as well as the chosen gift. You can then add unlimited decks for just €10 each (or less for The Jackpot), making this the most economical reward tier and also the most fun.

Add-ons are also available at this level. Add a gambler's coin (€15 for one, €20 for two) or hand-drawn artwork (€40) to your pledge with no extra shipping. Further add-ons may be unlocked during the campaign.

I think the explanation is good to understand.

If I understand correctly I choose "The Magician" and add the hand-drawn artwork. That'll leave me with 2 decks (that I can choose the colours of), 3x 100 lire coins and a beautiful artwork from your designer, correct?

How many of the hand-drown artworks will be available? Are there different ones to choose from? What Size do they have? Any possibility to get this after the kickstarter?