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Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:55 pm
by kevork
JazzBaloo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:51 pm
I am also worried about the tuck ripping around the giant cutout for the heavy insert. I wonder if there is/was foresight to reinforce the cardboard as a solution.
Who's to say, but it's likely the same paper as the regular Heirloom edition. Hopefully they're going with a thick cardstock from the get go, which I'd be surprised if this project didn't.
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:00 pm
by JazzBaloo
kevork wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:55 pm
JazzBaloo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:51 pm
I am also worried about the tuck ripping around the giant cutout for the heavy insert. I wonder if there is/was foresight to reinforce the cardboard as a solution.
Who's to say, but it's likely the same paper as the regular Heirloom edition. Hopefully they're going with a thick cardstock from the get go, which I'd be surprised if this project didn't.
B&N tuck stock for luxury is not always thick. I recall the twi Incubo decks having what I perceived as a somewhat thinner stock that was actually warping the tuck slightly, from what I'm guessing was due to the embossing. Hoping you're right that it is thicker.
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:25 pm
by hsbc
Happy to be wrong!
(This is why I post things, because I
will forget
)
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 3:04 pm
by Honeybee
The actual church's stained glass looks better (pg5)
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 4:18 pm
by crhage
kevork wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:55 pm
JazzBaloo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:51 pm
I am also worried about the tuck ripping around the giant cutout for the heavy insert. I wonder if there is/was foresight to reinforce the cardboard as a solution.
Who's to say, but it's likely the same paper as the regular Heirloom edition. Hopefully they're going with a thick cardstock from the get go, which I'd be surprised if this project didn't.
We thought of that and are using a thicker paper. It's quite stiff TBH.
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 4:29 pm
by crhage
kevork wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:43 pm
hsbc wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:30 pm
I will be happily shocked if it's only $50 -- my guess is $80
It's in a quote from an earlier post of yours
hsbc wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2025 8:31 pm
From the campaign:
The Heirloom Edition - The Market Church of St. Nicolai
You can expect the Heirloom Legacy to be $50 each if you want to budget for that or switch to a tier that already includes it.
When a tuck is cut like that, it's much flimsier (thinking of Black Requiem LTD). I'd be curious if that stained glass metal card will be offered as a standalone item as well, similar to how Lorenzo did with his.
https://www.stockholm17.com/collections ... tal-card-1
I'm now debating what my final pledge will be.
To answer a few questions:
1. It will be $50 (Gilded Deck, Custom die Cut tuck box, and thick metal card with 10 different enamel colors). Some creators might charge $80 for something like this considering it's a Kickstarter exclusive. I'm not one of those people. I just want collectors to have something cool. Would people pay $80? Yes, they would.
2. The paper is very thick. Paul at B&N and I have been working on this tuck for several months. The paper is very sturdy which is a requirement for this to work at all.
3. The metal card will NOT be available separately.
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 5:24 pm
by JazzBaloo
Where are the stained glass inserts being made?
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 5:33 pm
by crhage
JazzBaloo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 5:24 pm
Where are the stained glass inserts being made?
We have a longtime partner in China who makes all our metal products and trading pins.
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 7:03 pm
by kevork
I have some time to think but I'm leaning towards one cold-foiled Hameln deck as well as the Heirloom Legacy deck. It's a significant jump to go from $20 to $50 (I understand production costs and such, I'm not complaining about that per se), so I'll still mull it over. I would've bought the metal card separately which is probably why it's not being offered separately.
Right now, my pledge is the EB 3 deck box set, but I could do without a gilded and standard deck. I really like how the campaign doesn't have paywalls and everyone can customize whatever & however they want. I think I'm tired of having multiple versions of a deck.
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 7:05 pm
by Fenrir
kevork wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 7:03 pm
I have some time to think but I'm leaning towards one cold-foiled Hameln deck as well as the Heirloom Legacy deck. It's a significant jump to go from $20 to $50 for that metal card (I understand production costs and such, I'm not complaining about that per se), so I'll still mull it over. I would've bought the metal card separately which is probably why it's not being offered separately.
Right now, my pledge is the EB 3 deck box set, but I could do without a gilded and standard deck. I really like how the campaign doesn't have paywalls and everyone can customize whatever & however they want. I think I'm tired of having multiple versions of a deck.
I’m in a similar position and deciding what to do.
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:09 pm
by laitostarr777
Haha…
Well, I did say: Requiem… that was me hinting at how Heirloom Legacy gotta be uwu
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 10:24 pm
by JazzBaloo
laitostarr777 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:09 pm
Haha…
Well, I did say: Requiem… that was me hinting at how Heirloom Legacy gotta be uwu
What is uwu and which page were you talking about Requiem?
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 10:17 am
by Evilgamer
kevork wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 7:03 pm
I have some time to think but I'm leaning towards one cold-foiled Hameln deck as well as the Heirloom Legacy deck. It's a significant jump to go from $20 to $50 (I understand production costs and such, I'm not complaining about that per se), so I'll still mull it over. I would've bought the metal card separately which is probably why it's not being offered separately.
Right now, my pledge is the EB 3 deck box set, but I could do without a gilded and standard deck. I really like how the campaign doesn't have paywalls and everyone can customize whatever & however they want. I think I'm tired of having multiple versions of a deck.
Im close, Im not really big on having multiple decks that are basically the same thing
So the most likely outcome is
gilded foiled deck
Heirloom legacy
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:51 am
by gianluca1975
Let me start by saying that this is my personal opinion.
This is one of the most beautiful projects that have appeared in recent years. The cards are all personalized but they are still playing cards, that is, they can be used in addition to doing magic. There is a known and perfectly represented story. They are truly beautiful, subjective aspect. The legacy will be printed only in the Kickstarter campaign and will therefore have a extremely limited edition, increasing their collector value. I think the price is fair and in line with similar products.
To conclude I think this deck should be evaluated by every collector because it really deserves it.
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:49 am
by Swiski66
I splurged for the Legacy Edition, since it's a one and done release. I don't want to regret passing on it years later. I hope this deck wins a DOTY award in some category.
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:43 am
by Fenrir
I really had a hard time with this but ultimately decided on only the cold foil and one booster pack. I really think the teal and gold version is the best version. I was really tempted by the Heirloom and Heirloom Legacy but after seeing the real stained glass, this one didn't grab me in the same way. I know why they had to adjust the colours but I would have preferred how the church has it in real life. Just my opinion though. I have been waiting forever for this campaign and really happy to have the cards.
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2025 9:44 pm
by crhage
Backer rewards are shipping now! Many will arrive before Christmas. Can’t wait for you all to have these!
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2025 7:13 pm
by Evilgamer
got mine today, its definitely making my top 5 decks of the year tough...this is a great deck. the edition with the stainless insert is HEAVY.
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2025 6:40 am
by Swiski66
That Heirloom Legacy wins the award for the heaviest deck in my collection. I was concerned the fragile tuck box that houses the steel insert would have ripped. But all in all a beautiful and unique presentation! This deck was on my most wanted list this year, along with Cavaliers and Robin Hood by KWP. And 2025 started with a bang with Stockholm 17's Cyclopeans. I know I'm forgetting a few other decks on my 2025 favorites list at the moment. Looking forward to what surprises await us in 2026!
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2025 11:16 am
by Evilgamer
Swiski66 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 6:40 am
That Heirloom Legacy wins the award for the heaviest deck in my collection. I was concerned the fragile tuck box that houses the steel insert would have ripped. But all in all a beautiful and unique presentation! This deck was on my most wanted list this year, along with Cavaliers and Robin Hood by KWP. And 2025 started with a bang with Stockholm 17's Cyclopeans. I know I'm forgetting a few other decks on my 2025 favorites list at the moment. Looking forward to what surprises await us in 2026!
Robin Hood and ronin definitely are on the top5 list as is this deck and the last bloom/r1 deck (whose name escapes me). I got pretty much all the cavaliers decks and was a tad disappointed to be honest. Not sure what the fifth (in no particular order) would be probably something from s17.
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2025 4:17 pm
by KGthePrince
Hmmmm I think for new releases, my top 5 for me are: the heirloom edition of this deck, JBP's Exquisite Hanafuda, Jocu's Return of the Green Man whist edition, Oath's Rubiayat Test Edition, and S17's House of the Rising Spade Patronium edition. The Robin Hood decks look great but the second-hand market prices are ridiculous atm so I'll have to wait to find these decks at a reasonable price.
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2025 5:53 pm
by Evilgamer
KGthePrince wrote: ↑Wed Dec 31, 2025 4:17 pm
Hmmmm I think for new releases, my top 5 for me are: the heirloom edition of this deck, JBP's Exquisite Hanafuda, Jocu's Return of the Green Man whist edition, Oath's Rubiayat Test Edition, and S17's House of the Rising Spade Patronium edition. The Robin Hood decks look great but the second-hand market prices are ridiculous atm so I'll have to wait to find these decks at a reasonable price.
I cant disagree on JBP hanafuda or HOTRS one bit those are exceptional decks.
As for Robin Hood, you dont need second hand you can get them right off KWP's site.
(somehow the site is even hard to navigate today than it was a month ago, but you should be able to get them if you search)
https://kingswildproject.com/search?q=robin+hood
Re: Pied Piper by Wondercraft (ill. Russell Gray)
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2025 7:06 pm
by KGthePrince
Evilgamer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 31, 2025 5:53 pm
KGthePrince wrote: ↑Wed Dec 31, 2025 4:17 pm
Hmmmm I think for new releases, my top 5 for me are: the heirloom edition of this deck, JBP's Exquisite Hanafuda, Jocu's Return of the Green Man whist edition, Oath's Rubiayat Test Edition, and S17's House of the Rising Spade Patronium edition. The Robin Hood decks look great but the second-hand market prices are ridiculous atm so I'll have to wait to find these decks at a reasonable price.
I cant disagree on JBP hanafuda or HOTRS one bit those are exceptional decks.
As for Robin Hood, you dont need second hand you can get them right off KWP's site.
(somehow the site is even hard to navigate today than it was a month ago, but you should be able to get them if you search)
https://kingswildproject.com/search?q=robin+hood
Appreciate it bro
