Orbit - Don't Mess With Women Edition

[manu]

Product page

The DFWW Edition is a charity deck. 50% of the profits will go to the Malala Fund and the other 50% will go to the Global Fund For Women.

[manu]

Ha, it seems UC auto-edited the title

Edit: Looks like it also edits the F-word in the URL, so the link doesn't work

[bdawg923]

They forgot to auto-edit the back design too

[hsbc]

Fixed the link with a URL shortener: http://tinyurl.com/orbit-dfww -- I also "fixed" the title by changing the C to a Cyrillic с

If the courts were in the style of the woman on the tuck and back, this would be a insta-buy for me I'm also surprised USPCC will print a deck that says "fuсk"

[rousselle]

Are you sure you want to be handing out a recipe to folks telling them how to thwart our smurfinator when flame wars keep threatening to break out in other threads?

Hmmmmm?

Good call on the TinyURL fix, though.

[STLBluesNut]

neat looking tuck and backs. dumb title. horrendous courts.

reading up on the second ''charity'''s page, ''smurf'' no. filled with woke language/beliefs and victim mentality.

[GandalfPC]

as buzzwordy as you may have found it (and I do admit they come across pretty strong), that second charity seems pretty busy doing pretty non-offensive work helping improve the plight of a lot of women around the world, who do seem to have a laundry list of needs - for example:

Reducing HIV incidence among adolescent girls and young women: By working with community organizations, the Fund helped achieve a 67% reduction in HIV incidence in priority countries since 2010.

Securing legal protections: In Guatemala, their grantee partner Unión Nacional de Mujeres Guatemaltecas supported Maya Achi women in advocating for justice and healing after experiencing sexual violence.

Improving working conditions for domestic workers: In Lebanon, their grantee helped ensure domestic workers are included in minimum wage and maternity protection laws.

[Harvonsgard]

neat looking tuck and backs. dumb title. horrendous courts.

I couldn't have said it better. I f*сk with this statement.
I could ignore most of it but the title being on the back design makes them a none-purchase for me.

[rousselle]

This was already a non-purchase from me (the courts, the text on the backs, the marketing photo with very obvious placement of the product with a large "O" being held in front of a certain body part), but I just now noticed that the image on the backs is "upside down."

As a general rule for a two-way back, the upper half should look right-side-up and the lower half should look upside-down. Take a look at a standard bicycle back and you'll see what I mean.

I've gotten to the point where whenever I notice this on a deck, it absolutely drives me crazy. I have accidentally backed a couple projects with this design error, and it just gives me the willies every time I see it. >shudder<

[STLBluesNut]

As a general rule for a two-way back, the upper half should look right-side-up and the lower half should look upside-down. Take a look at a standard bicycle back and you'll see what I mean.

I've gotten to the point where whenever I notice this on a deck, it absolutely drives me crazy.

i dont really see this as a rule of thumb for this kind of design and it does not bother me at all. however, i also have a set of pet peeves that just bother me. it is funny how different things bother different people.

banners in the middle of the courts.
real people faces on standard court bodies.
four color suits.
to name a few lol.

[STLBluesNut]

as buzzwordy as you may have found it (and I do admit they come across pretty strong), that second charity seems pretty busy doing pretty non-offensive work helping improve the plight of a lot of women around the world, who do seem to have a laundry list of needs - for example:

i am sure that one could look through a number of charities, that maybe they do not agree with, and find a small or large number of actions, in isolation of themselves, that are noble. that may be the case here. however, that doesnt change their actions or beliefs that are objectionable. of course, what is deemed noble or objectionable is often very subjective.

this- ''From famine to war to devastating earthquakes, crises are not apolitical accidents—they are borne out of colonialism, greed, exploitation, and authoritarianism.'' really? we are going to blame even natural disasters on politics? if they just omitted earthquakes, i could let it slide, although it would still reek of woke and victim mentality. as written, it is just ignorance. it is also very ironic that people like this will site things such as authoritarianism, however, parts of their statements lead one to believe they would take control of resources and opportunity and redistribute them as they see fit. ''This approach helps achieve both equity (equal distribution of resources, access, and opportunities) and equality (equal outcomes for all).'' their definitions for equality and equity are more accurate if flipped. equity would be better described as ''equal outcomes for all''. generally, when you press people like this on how they would achieve equity, it is by taking from one group and giving to another or by giving to one group that did not put in the effort to earn it. no thank you. that would put you in a form of leadership as bad as or worse than the authoritarianism they decry. opportunity should be equal, not outcome.

there are many, many more examples i could quote from their website that i find very objectionable. anyway, this is probably not the thread for this discussion and i dont really care to have one. as i have said elsewhere, i do not care if you, the reader of this, disagrees with me. i do not need, nor seek, validation of my views from your agreeance nor do i need to change your opinions. i certainly don't want to live in a society based on victimhood, redistribution and free rides. unfortunately, one could argue that america is already there or at least getting closer to it by the day.

[GandalfPC]

Regarding the earthquake bit - it is pretty clear that they refer to the care that people receive in the aftermath of such, not the cause of the quake itself. Pic from the bottom of the page with that quote on it.


Perhaps we can go to the woman in the picture and discuss the difference between equity and equality…

[brownsl]

Oh no, here we go again.

[STLBluesNut]

nope, i made my statement, i feel no need to discuss or defend. go to the website and interpret/read for yourself. donate entire paychecks if you like, i wouldn't give a dime to them.

I'll even give an easy link.

https://www.globalfundforwomen.org

[CCwonder]

130 million girls from which countries? I read a little about how the Taliban shot the girl named Mala. Does that mean that the Mala Fund helps girls and women in the Middle East? Seems to be a good cause although I typically have reservations about how charity funds are allocated. I don't like the deck but I can appreciate the gesture.

[GandalfPC]

From Bard:

The Malala Fund: Yes, the Malala Fund is named after Malala Yousafzai and was co-founded by her and her father in 2013. Their mission is to ensure 12 years of free, safe, and quality education for every girl. While they initially focused on Pakistan, they now work in several countries across the globe, including Afghanistan which is geographically part of South Asia, bordering the Middle East.

[GandalfPC]

I will also note that while the photo above is a woman in Nepal, a country never colonized, for those that had been colonized I imagine they would agree that the destruction caused to their lives was arguably in the ballpark when comparing it to a natural disaster.

[bdawg923]

Guys no politics please

[STLBluesNut]

... although I typically have reservations about how charity funds are allocated.

this, unfortunately, is a big problem with many charities.

the following part is uneducated, on the topic, opinion:

i have not done much research on charities, in general or specific charities. if i am being ''pie in the sky'', i would say that i think/hope many charities are started with very good intentions. unfortunately, as charities grow, they are influenced by many outside factors, whether it be logistics, government red tape or personal issues such as greed, as examples. any one, all or any combination generally drain or divert funds from the original intention. this can lead to a very small portion of funding actually making it to the ground in the form of help or relief, not necessarily maliciously.

as card collectors, we often see shipping costs. some can be very high where the cost of shipping can eclipse the cost of the product itself. transfer this to something like food or water relief and all of the logistics can eat up much of the funding resulting in a relatively low amount of relief, for the funding provided, making it to those in need.

one can also see, even in ''not for profit'' charities, the top end of the organizational structure becoming quite wealthy. recent cases of founders buying multi million dollar mansions with the funds come to mind. i suppose this could be chalked up to either or both regulatory issues and/or personal/corruption issues.

once a charity gets so big, there are operational costs including salaries and employee pay. employees certainly need to make a living and support families. managers arent working for free either but it is also subjective on what is too much in a charity or non profit organization. an organization may need a building or office space to operate out of, what is too fancy or nice?

anyway, i think i forgot the point i was trying to make, if any, besides agreeing with CCwonder. there are many charities rife with problems and it is hard to find a good one to support.

[GandalfPC]

Program Percentage: 82%

The percentage of Global Fund for Women's cash budget it spends on programs relative to overhead (fundraising, management, and general expenses).

https://www.charitywatch.org/charities/ ... 20expenses).

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[CCwonder]

Is the Mala fund the same thing as the Global Women's fund or is it a portion of it? I mean to ask is the 82% indicative of the Mala fund or the Global Women's fund or both if they are the same thing?

[GandalfPC]

Program Expense: Ratio - 82.30%

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/811397590

[CCwonder]

There is a lot of information to read on. I like to think that everything is on the level and I also know that things can sort of slip through the cracks along the way. Kudos on the organization for doing something good in this world regardless if all the reported information is 100% accurate or not. Women should have the same opportunities as men do and it is not ok for certain countries to oppress women because of their gender or religion. Skimming through the info, it is good to see that the reported salaries of the people in charge is not in the millions lol.

[GandalfPC]

The ceo has actually been replaced. Here is Ehlers new gig: https://www.unrefugees.org/news/meet-su ... for-unhcr/


As for the high salaries, it does seem odd, but people at that level are courted by various places to gather up tons of money for them and finding respectable ways to spend it - I’ll know the world is a better place when these people do the job gratis, or when the job is done.

Just an acting Ceo at the moment:

https://malala.org/staff

[zlexander]

for those that had been colonized I imagine they would agree that the destruction caused to their lives was arguably in the ballpark when comparing it to a natural disaster.

Or even bigger

[hsbc]

[MOD NOTE: We are indeed getting far from the topic at hand here...]

[CCwonder]

[MOD NOTE: We are indeed getting far from the topic at hand here...]

A big part of the promotions and theme for this deck is the charitable aspect. Is it ok if we discuss the legitimacy of said charity?

[CCwonder]

The ceo has actually been replaced. Here is Ehlers new gig: https://www.unrefugees.org/news/meet-su ... for-unhcr/


As for the high salaries, it does seem odd, but people at that level are courted by various places to gather up tons of money for them and finding respectable ways to spend it - I’ll know the world is a better place when these people do the job gratis, or when the job is done.

Just an acting Ceo at the moment:

https://malala.org/staff

I questioned internally if the salaries were too high but there is probably a lot of work that goes into running such a large organization that has many moving parts. I was not at all being sarcastic when I said it was good to see that they weren't making millions.

[kevork]

I'm no mod, but such off-tangent conversations can be stimulating. I understand this subforum is for cards but the conversation is tied to the campaign. As a member here, I'm cool with it as long as it's not teenage bickering. I deal with that enough at work!

[hsbc]

The discussion is fine, I'm just trying to nudge it back a bit to cards, apologies if I came off as heavy-handed