Lucky Playing Cards - KS

[kem-collector]

Simplified kickstarter link

[theCapraAegagrus]

Far, far, far too many variants.

[RelativityCards]

So there are 4 different limited editions at quantities of 500, 200, 150 and 150. That's 1,000 total, which is the minimum for a run of decks from USPCC. So they all have the same cards inside, which isn't a surprise, but what is a surprise is that they haven't shown that. I get the feeling that all of the decks have the exact same cards, whether limited or not, but it's not clear. And why make tucks with very different back colors when they're all the same?

[BaconWise]

Here are some closeups from the campaign. I like this one and I was LUCKY enough to get backer #1 (first time!). Please take a moment to appreciate how the pledge tiers are labeled

[akicer]

I truly believe the combo of gilding and tuck swap is destroying the community. At least for me I loss interests in getting any of these decks when I see this happens

[jerichoholic]

Way too many cash grab decks here, just need 1. No reason for all the other versions except a cash grab. Creators need to stop with all the extra tuck swaps and gilded variations of the same deck. Pass

[oddsmaker003]

Thank you for the comments. We are exploring a foil stretch for the numbered versions. I will try to explain the tucks for what it is worth. USPCC tucks aren't the best in my opinion so I like to offer a more custom tuck as well, however, there isn't much incentive to prevent USPCC from printing a tuck ( 10 cents per deck vs a solid white tuck). By offering that option is allows people who use their cards to save a little money. I find that these magicians/cardists don't really care about a nice tuck. The Gilded tucks are different to distinguish them from the limited version and we like to keep a few private reserves for giveaways etc. If we work out a stretch goal it will further separate the Limited Edition from the standard tuck. At the end of the day every deck isn't for everyone and we understand that. It's a continuous learning process for us to provide the best product we can and we felt like this campaign structure worked best for us at this time.

Cheers,
Doc

[Decknowledgy]

Thank you for the comments. We are exploring a foil stretch for the numbered versions. I will try to explain the tucks for what it is worth. USPCC tucks aren't the best in my opinion so I like to offer a more custom tuck as well, however, there isn't much incentive to prevent USPCC from printing a tuck ( 10 cents per deck vs a solid white tuck). By offering that option is allows people who use their cards to save a little money. I find that these magicians/cardists don't really care about a nice tuck. The Gilded tucks are different to distinguish them from the limited version and we like to keep a few private reserves for giveaways etc. If we work out a stretch goal it will further separate the Limited Edition from the standard tuck. At the end of the day every deck isn't for everyone and we understand that. It's a continuous learning process for us to provide the best product we can and we felt like this campaign structure worked best for us at this time.

Cheers,
Doc

Jokes aside, I think it's true to focus more on the cards themselves instead of the tuck, something to be considered if future projects may come. Eventually, for the card handler, as you've said Mike, the magician/cardists don't really care about a nice tuck, and that leaves only the collectors who might be interested, but not a whole lot of them. But I get the nice thinking behind creating for the sake of the customer's money saving. Anyways, assessing the market is always key.

[Harvonsgard]

Congrats on that #1 spot Bacon.

So, I'm still a bit confused. The cards inside the tucks are the same, right? Except for the gilded versions that have gilded edges of course, but the back design does not differ, correct?

[justplaycards]

Congrats on that #1 spot Bacon.

So, I'm still a bit confused. The cards inside the tucks are the same, right? Except for the gilded versions that have gilded edges of course, but the back design does not differ, correct?

I share your confusion .
Quite like the standard version. Not something for the collection, but a decent addition to the play pile. Not a good time financially though with some big drops happening, might pick one up down the line though.

[OVSUB]

What even is this KS? I'm so confused, why so many variants?

[RelativityCards]

The weirdest part is I don't see a way to add on or back for most of the variants outside of the collector tier which was limit 20.

[OVSUB]

I guess they're trying to sell more by forcing people to pledge for specific tiers? I guess we'll see if they respond.

[oddsmaker003]

Apologies for the delay in responding. The decks are the same with the exception of the gilded decks, those are gilded. Until we hit the stretch goal which will be posted soon the decks are a like. At that time limited decks will either be cold foiled or Metalux. We had a last second hiccup with USPCC not being able to Metalux on Metallic ink so we are working it out. The standard version is for people who use their decks. They feature crushed premium stock and traditional cut. Metalux can't be crushed but it is a nicer looking deck. That version is more for collectors if that makes sense.

Way too many cash grab decks here, just need 1. No reason for all the other versions except a cash grab. Creators need to stop with all the extra tuck swaps and gilded variations of the same deck. Pass

We have supporters that back all of our projects and only pledge for gilded decks. Gilding isn't for everyone but we are loyal to the backers that are loyal to us so as long as they want the gild we will provide that.

I guess they're trying to sell more by forcing people to pledge for specific tiers? I guess we'll see if they respond.

By having a limited pledge structure it force people to pledge more? I 'm not sure how one is relevant to the other but forcing anyone to do anything isn't the intent If anyone would like a different combination we will gladly add the tier.

The weirdest part is I don't see a way to add on or back for most of the variants outside of the collector tier which was limit 20.

Kickstarter doesn't allow for limited Add-Ons. So if you wanted to limit your decks to say 100, there isn't a way to do that and ensure to many backers don't add on. We wanted some of the versions to be limited/ Kickstarter only. To achieve this we limited the structure of the tiers ( we added 6 tiers for variety. Again, if someone would like a different combination we are happy to do that). Unlike Kickstarter, Backerkit allows you to limit quantities available, once those are sent out backers will be able to add on as they wish. This is also beneficial to backers. How many times have you backed a deck and been charged for add ons and everything then get your deck 5 months later? With Backerkit our backers are only charged for their tier pledge and shipping. The add ons are charged separately about 2-4 weeks prior to fulfillment. Total collector tier limit is 120*

Cheers

[Eric Lee]

Congrats on funding. These aren't bad at all. Fully custom and carrying the Irish theme quite well IMHO. $12 with metallic inks on the standard when others are charging as much if not more with standard courts and no frills.

Nice to see your deck designs evolving from the standard Lit casino deck to theme and fully custom deck like this. Would back for 1+1 if I wasn't already overstretched on my $ commitments. Will have to pick up from a store once $ isn't so tight.

[kem-collector]

$80 EB brick for the next 24 hours - 11 standard and 1 Private Reserve....man, that is a good price.

[OVSUB]

Looks like I got it wrong on the tier stuff sorry about that. Are the decks also different for the different editions or is it just the tuck changing, with gilded decks being exception?

[oddsmaker003]

Congrats on funding. These aren't bad at all. Fully custom and carrying the Irish theme quite well IMHO. $12 with metallic inks on the standard when others are charging as much if not more with standard courts and no frills.

Nice to see your deck designs evolving from the standard Lit casino deck to theme and fully custom deck like this. Would back for 1+1 if I wasn't already overstretched on my $ commitments. Will have to pick up from a store once $ isn't so tight.

Thank you for the kind words. Thanks to feedback from UC we went out and found good artists to collaborate with in order to produce decks that are more appealing to collectors. We are working with Jamie Stark of Stark Design, Brad Gabbard of Native Tongue Studios , Srdjan Vidakovic of New Garden Society ( You heard it here first! Deck is 99% complete) and a couple of others to bring a higher quality product than we offered in the beginning.

Cheers

[oddsmaker003]

Looks like I got it wrong on the tier stuff sorry about that. Are the decks also different for the different editions or is it just the tuck changing, with gilded decks being exception?

Right now it is the tuck. Once we get word back on the metalux or cold foil that may change. I' m hopeful that we will be able to offer a stretch goal that will upgrade all of the limited decks.

Cheers

[OVSUB]

Looks like I got it wrong on the tier stuff sorry about that. Are the decks also different for the different editions or is it just the tuck changing, with gilded decks being exception?

Right now it is the tuck. Once we get word back on the metalux or cold foil that may change. I' m hopeful that we will be able to offer a stretch goal that will upgrade all of the limited decks.

Cheers

This would be good to know would you put this on the KS? I think it would clear up some confusion and make people more likely to pledge.

[oddsmaker003]

Looks like I got it wrong on the tier stuff sorry about that. Are the decks also different for the different editions or is it just the tuck changing, with gilded decks being exception?

Right now it is the tuck. Once we get word back on the metalux or cold foil that may change. I' m hopeful that we will be able to offer a stretch goal that will upgrade all of the limited decks.

Cheers

This would be good to know would you put this on the KS? I think it would clear up some confusion and make people more likely to pledge.

I will make sure and do that on the Stretch Post. Speaking of which, what do you all like to see as stretch goals. So far we are going with:
Numbered seals
Deck Protector similar to DS1 free with every deck.
A Jumbo Tuck - Brick Box that is like this one but a Lucky tuck rather than a Juice Joint.

[kem-collector]

Speaking of which, what do you all like to see as stretch goals.

Normally a new deck is a good stretch goal, but for this campaign...please...no. lol! In the message I sent you on KS when I upped to the brick, I suggested something and I have a few more ideas.

1. I see coins all the time, but maybe something that will actually be used in a real poker game. Make a slick green Lucky Dealer button.
2. A Gaff Pack.
3. A Lucky card guard.
4. Upgrade brick box to embossed/foiled/etc.

[oddsmaker003]

Speaking of which, what do you all like to see as stretch goals.

Normally a new deck is a good stretch goal, but for this campaign...please...no. lol! In the message I sent you on KS when I upped to the brick, I suggested something and I have a few more ideas.

1. I see coins all the time, but maybe something that will actually be used in a real poker game. Make a slick green Lucky Dealer button.
2. A Gaff Pack.
3. A Lucky card guard.
4. Upgrade brick box to embossed/foiled/etc.

Thank you. I replied to your message on kickstarter and I really appreciate you taking the time to send that message. I like these ideas. I will have to check #2 to see how this is done. I'm assuming the minimum print run on that would still be 1000. I'm not sure I would be able to get rid of 1000 gaff packs.

Cheers

[OVSUB]

Looks like I got it wrong on the tier stuff sorry about that. Are the decks also different for the different editions or is it just the tuck changing, with gilded decks being exception?

Right now it is the tuck. Once we get word back on the metalux or cold foil that may change. I' m hopeful that we will be able to offer a stretch goal that will upgrade all of the limited decks.

Cheers

This would be good to know would you put this on the KS? I think it would clear up some confusion and make people more likely to pledge.

I will make sure and do that on the Stretch Post. Speaking of which, what do you all like to see as stretch goals. So far we are going with:
Numbered seals
Deck Protector similar to DS1 free with every deck.
A Jumbo Tuck - Brick Box that is like this one but a Lucky tuck rather than a Juice Joint.

1. Upgrade brick box to embossed/foiled/etc
2. Different designs for the cards
3. Seals
4. Deck protector

[MSimonart]

I saw somewhere on IG a brick is 80-90USD shipped? That's an awesome price man, it's that awesome my first reaction was almost a little concerned this was legitimate damn it's never good enough right. Too good of a deal is sketchy, to high of a price is cash grabber... Good luck with the campaign!

[kem-collector]

I saw somewhere on IG a brick is 80-90USD shipped? That's an awesome price man, it's that awesome my first reaction was almost a little concerned this was legitimate damn it's never good enough right. Too good of a deal is sketchy, to high of a price is cash grabber... Good luck with the campaign!

It's an EB price good for only 24 hours. After that time, it goes to the normal price of $156US/$168INT.

[MSimonart]

I saw somewhere on IG a brick is 80-90USD shipped? That's an awesome price man, it's that awesome my first reaction was almost a little concerned this was legitimate damn it's never good enough right. Too good of a deal is sketchy, to high of a price is cash grabber... Good luck with the campaign!

It's an EB price good for only 24 hours. After that time, it goes to the normal price of $156US/$168INT.

Indeed, good to point that out. But it's still an incredible price. Don't think I have seen that prince range a lot for a newly released deck. That's about 7 - 7,50USD/deck, with 11 standard decks and one more limited deck, which in my experience is pretty great.

[kem-collector]

Another possible add-on/addition would be a DS1 Brick Sleeve from Shermjack. If your "Jumbo Tuck" bricks are the same dimensions as your previous releases and you ensure your upcoming ones are the same, it could be a standard offering and buying in bulk is always cheaper and something you could offer in your store, etc.

[oddsmaker003]

Thank you all for taking time to help us with this. I think we are going to start with these.
Numbered Seals
Graphics on the inside of the tuck
Deck Protectors ( FREE WITH EVERY DECK)
Challenge Coins/ Card Protectors(FREE )
Foil jumbo tucks that are replicas of one of the deck tucks
Metalux


Cheers

[kem-collector]

Metalux

Be sure to check with USPCC on that. I just read the update from Jody on the Sovereign KS and they are not allowing him to use Metalux on the back with multiple colored backs. He had to go all white back with gold metalux. Just something you might want to look into.

Here is what he had to say:

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