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The Green Man by Jocu Playing Cards - V2 Launching 12th November 19:00 CET

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Launching Tuesday 19th November at 18:00 CET/9:00 PST/13:00 EST




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A UC exclusive this one.

We received word today that Fillide is ready and will be on its way to the fulfilment centres on Friday. This means that despite the delay we will just about be able to launch our new deck this month!

Seeing as the UC community here have been so important to us since we first mentioned our campaign for Fillide, we wanted to kick off our promotion for the next project here. We hope you enjoy it and we will be updating you with more images and info over the next few days :)

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A celebration of the mystery of the plant world, The Green Man Playing Cards explore this iconic character and delve into the folklore behind dozens of plants, fruits and trees said to be both cursed and blessed, contain magical properties and even to be gifts directly from the Gods themselves.
To our ancestors the earth itself was the Goddess. The plants which sustained us with their fruits would also consume us when we perished. Artefacts from ancient times along with the folklore and legends that survive show the immense respect that the ancients had for nature.

In the old world, even as recently as 300 years ago, the earth as we know it was covered in forests and wildflowers. What cities existed bore little resemblance to the sprawling metropolises we see today. Old cities would seem rather more like quaint countryside towns, and the majority of people would live in what we now call villages or hamlets.
The forest then, was a source of great mystery and received deep respect from our ancestors. Even the smallest copse of trees would have seemed far larger, far more mysterious than today. Forests spanned much larger distances and covered the majority of the land. If one was not careful, it was easy to get lost, losing track of time and find oneself entranced by the endless rows of branches and leaves.

Interestingly, the folklore around nature and the forests is remarkably consistent across the world. From ethereal spirits and cursed trees, to sacred groves and magical properties of plants, stories told in Anglo-Saxon England bear striking resemblance to others from Brittany, the Holy Roman Empire, Scandinavia and as far away as Asia and Africa.

None of the botanical images from these times is more shrouded in mystery than The Green Man himself.

Take a closer look at ancient architecture across northern Europe and you’re bound to see this ancient and mysterious face. From Catholic cathedrals to pagan monuments, aristocratic villas and Christian chapels this strange character appears in many forms, adorning everything from the most prominent tower to the most subtle corner of a door frame.

Often simply a man’s face made from leaves and plants, other times depicted somewhat unnervingly as a human being almost devoured by branches and vines, the origins and meaning of the Green Man remain a mystery. Was he a pagan deity? Is he the male representation of mother nature? Or is he a warning for man that nature will always prevail?

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Coming to Kickstarter November 19th, 2019 (14-day campaign)

(May be slightly delayed to allow for Fillide fulfilment to deliver)

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More images in the coming days. Please fire away with any feedback, questions or comments :)

EDIT - Box Mockups Added with notes below...

The boxes represent the bronze and copper Green Men that you see frequently on fountains throughout Italy and Europe. These compliment the classic architecture Green Man on the back of the cards, the reimagined Green Men of the Aces and the other Green Men that you have yet to see...

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The boxes will be in a similar matte stock to Fillide and the similarities in the style are because they are part of an unofficial 'trilogy' of decks that we are making. More on this soon.
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I love the update, Anthony and Ale! Your artwork is so delicate and complex - really stunning work. I love seeing the transformation, especially with the green! Beautiful color choice with the dark red and those card backs are truly superb. I am running out of compliments but I look forward to your launch and I can't wait to see the tuck box!
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BaconWise wrote:I love the update, Anthony and Ale! Your artwork is so delicate and complex - really stunning work. I love seeing the transformation, especially with the green! Beautiful color choice with the dark red and those card backs are truly superb. I am running out of compliments but I look forward to your launch and I can't wait to see the tuck box!
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This one looks even better than the Fillide deck, it picks up on that deck and improves it significantly! I must say that knowing this deck was comming I might had passed on the Fillide one. Although I not regret supporting the KS campaign.

Fantastic work, and for a second time deck designer you're going in the right direction!
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I’m in. Really digging the art.
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I'm just waiting for the time it'll drop haha, need to get the hours right!
Also, I propose Jocu to be entered into the "Rookie Designer of the Year" voting 8-)

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Thank you everyone so far for the support. It's really nerve-wracking launching a new project as you never know how it will go down but my philosophy is that if the folk on this forum like it then we must have done something right!

I'd also like to point out that while theCapraAegagrus' critiques may be legendarily brutal, he deserves credit for his compliments which are equally powerful :D Cheers everyone!

We should have some more images for next week :)
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Jocu wrote:I'd also like to point out that while theCapraAegagrus' critiques may be legendarily brutal, he deserves credit for his compliments which are equally powerful :D
If 2pc. doesn't comment on a deck that means he loves it. If he actually compliments it then it's in his running for DOTY'19 and pigs are flying somewhere.
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Jocu wrote:...I'd also like to point out that while theCapraAegagrus' critiques may be legendarily brutal, he deserves credit for his compliments which are equally powerful :D Cheers everyone!...
That's the intent. ;)

When my dad cooks/grills, he always waits for my feedback, because he takes my criticism in the same manner. "If Chris likes it, then Gordon Ramsay probably would, too."
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theCapraAegagrus wrote:
Jocu wrote:...I'd also like to point out that while theCapraAegagrus' critiques may be legendarily brutal, he deserves credit for his compliments which are equally powerful :D Cheers everyone!...
That's the intent. ;)

When my dad cooks/grills, he always waits for my feedback, because he takes my criticism in the same manner. "If Chris likes it, then Gordon Ramsay probably would, too."
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:lol: :lol:
People don't speak their mind enough in this world, it's a positive quality :lol:

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Jocu, have you ever considering submitting yourself as a "verified designer" here? Or probably remember to do that when the Fillide deck arrives at our hands!
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Decknowledgy wrote:Jocu, have you ever considering submitting yourself as a "verified designer" here? Or probably remember to do that when the Fillide deck arrives at our hands!
How do I do that :?
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Decknowledgy wrote:Jocu, have you ever considering submitting yourself as a "verified designer" here? Or probably remember to do that when the Fillide deck arrives at our hands!
How do I do that :?
"User Control Panel" → "Usergroups" → "Verified Designers" and click "Submit"
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A tiny critique first. Is it just me or does the QoH holding the twig a bit unnatural? If I pick up something, my thumb goes around the object and doesn't rest behind it. I mean that is why primates have thumbs :D .
One more thing. Just a thought. While, for political reasons I care very much where my products come from, I don't need it to be plastered that big on the side of the tuck box. The ad copy on the bottom is the right spot for this, imo. I know that it is kind of a standard on playing card tuck boxes, but an artistic deck deserves more than a "made in ..." on the tuck box. It isn't really a gripe or anything like that for me, just something I would change.

For The Fillide pictures - gorgeous. I have to admit that I slightly regret only getting Acqua and not Terra, since the gold really pops beautifully. But the silver-turquoise combo is still my prefered one, so I'll survive it.

For the Green Man - instant cope. I wouldn't say it is better since I see what you wanted to do with the Fillide courts, but I would say as well that these courts are so far more to my licking than the Fillide courts. Can't wait for both - Fillide to arrive and The Green Man to come alive.

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Harvonsgard wrote:A tiny critique first. Is it just me or does the QoH holding the twig a bit unnatural? If I pick up something, my thumb goes around the object and doesn't rest behind it. I mean that is why primates have thumbs :D
Show us a picture of you holding a twig or stfu. :P
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theCapraAegagrus wrote:
Harvonsgard wrote:A tiny critique first. Is it just me or does the QoH holding the twig a bit unnatural? If I pick up something, my thumb goes around the object and doesn't rest behind it. I mean that is why primates have thumbs :D
Show us a picture of you holding a twig or stfu. :P
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I seriously was thinking about this to clarify what I mean, but since my phone camera is smashed and every picture looks like taken in a sandstorm, I dropped that idea immediatly.
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Harvonsgard wrote:
theCapraAegagrus wrote:
Harvonsgard wrote:A tiny critique first. Is it just me or does the QoH holding the twig a bit unnatural? If I pick up something, my thumb goes around the object and doesn't rest behind it. I mean that is why primates have thumbs :D
Show us a picture of you holding a twig or stfu. :P
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I seriously was thinking about this to clarify what I mean, but since my phone camera is smashed and every picture looks like taken in a sandstorm, I dropped that idea immediatly.
Just took a picture of my pen while I was writing. No idea what you're talking about :lol:

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Harvonsgard wrote:A tiny critique first. Is it just me or does the QoH holding the twig a bit unnatural? If I pick up something, my thumb goes around the object and doesn't rest behind it. I mean that is why primates have thumbs :D .
One more thing. Just a thought. While, for political reasons I care very much where my products come from, I don't need it to be plastered that big on the side of the tuck box. The ad copy on the bottom is the right spot for this, imo. I know that it is kind of a standard on playing card tuck boxes, but an artistic deck deserves more than a "made in ..." on the tuck box. It isn't really a gripe or anything like that for me, just something I would change.

For The Fillide pictures - gorgeous. I have to admit that I slightly regret only getting Acqua and not Terra, since the gold really pops beautifully. But the silver-turquoise combo is still my prefered one, so I'll survive it.
I'll ask the artist about the hand :) It's a wand, so perhaps there is some reasoning behind it.

Re: Made in Europe it's too late to change it :lol: but it gave me some food for though on the walk from the car this morning. It's taken on a lot more of a significant meaning in the year since we decided to put it on there, but at the time it was really to express the connection of the deck to Italian culture, people and artisans. However with the decks being printed in Belgium, it would've been a lie to write Made in Italy. That said, the intention of the project from an early date was to do everything in as small a space as possible in order to limit the environmental impact, so it was more a clarification of the small zone of production than anything else. I don't know if it will be the same for Green Man as the regional connection is less specific.
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Jocu wrote:Just took a picture of my pen while I was writing. No idea what you're talking about :lol:
You ... . You little ... :D :lol:
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theCapraAegagrus wrote:Show us a picture of you holding a twig or stfu. :P
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Jocu wrote:Just took a picture of my pen while I was writing. No idea what you're talking about :lol:
You ... . You little ... :D :lol:
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Enough shenanigans - here are the boxes.

We have altered them at the last minute as we saw some lovely Green Men this weekend in Bern and decided to use this as inspiration for the box. Wonderfully, it also allows us to use foil where previously it had made no sense.

The boxes represent the bronze and copper Green Men that you see frequently on fountains throughout Italy and Europe. These compliment the classic architecture Green Man on the back of the cards, the reimagined Green Men of the Aces and the other Green Men that you have yet to see...

NOTE - These are just early mockups but to give you an idea of what we're trying to achieve, we're enquiring about copper and bronze (green) foil for the Green Men, and the box will be embossed in a similar way to Fillide. If anyone has Fillide yet, you'll see what we mean!

Let us know your thoughts!

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The boxes will be in a similar matte stock to Fillide and the similarities in the style are because they are part of an unofficial 'trilogy' of decks that we are making. More on this soon.

And finally...

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I do not know what word to use to express my mind going absolute bonkers loving this design.
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I really like the subtlety and understated elegance of this design. I am definitely in.
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Embossing and foil?! Bless you, Jocu.

The tuck boxes will look incredible and great King reveal as well!
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Re: The Green Man by Jocu Playing Cards 19/11/19 on Kickstar

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This is such a minute detail and maybe it's already been clarified but what is the purpose of a red green men deck?
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Re: The Green Man by Jocu Playing Cards 19/11/19 on Kickstar

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vasta41 wrote:This is such a minute detail and maybe it's already been clarified but what is the purpose of a red green men deck?
Good question! So The Green Man is rarely ever actually green. The green part comes from the foliage that surrounds him, but usually he's carved out of stone or gold or bronze.

So in order to have two variants, we focused on the colours of the forest in different seasons, most prominently autumn and spring. So we have a kind of reddy/brown deck and a green deck.

We haven't settled on names yet, but the theme of the seasons will likely play a part.
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