[ISO] FEDERAL 52 Part 2 Wooden Deck Cases

[Thedissident001]

Hey Guys,

Searching for anyone looking to sell any of the wooden deck cases (1, 2 or 10 deck size) sold as part of the Federal 52 Part 2 Kickstarter campaign funded in July 2013.

Image of example I'm looking for included below.

Please PM me with asking prices, condition, photos etc.

Thanks.

[Bradius]

Spectre has one up for sale with the full set of decks. You can also PM him here if you are interested.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Federal-52-Pla ... SwQ4RdlkVY

[J_Barrett69]

Spectre has one up for sale with the full set of decks. You can also PM him here if you are interested.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Federal-52-Pla ... SwQ4RdlkVY

Man, talk about mark up. Sheesh.

[Bradius]

That is actually likely close to what Spectre paid for it on the secondary market. A complete set is tough and expensive. To get one with the box is even more tough. Only a few boxes were made and they cost a lot originally.

[Spectre]

Man, talk about mark up. Sheesh.

First I would like to apologize to Thedissident001, I don't mean to jack your post.

So how much do you think I should ask for it? How much are you selling yours for? How many have you seen come up for sale in the past year?

Here is my thinking, you tell me where I'm wrong.

Silver Cert Branded = $25
Silver Cert Unbranded = $25
Fed Reserve Note Branded = $50
Fed Reserve Note Unbranded = $50
Gold Cert Branded = $75
Gold Cert Unbranded = $75
Fed 52 Branded = $75
Fed 52 Unbranded = $75
Black Reserve Note Branded = $150
Black Reserve Note Unbranded = $300

These are the average prices for these deck that have sold on eBay for the past year. So I don't believe I'm too far off there.

Thats $900 for the decks alone. The 10 deck box alone sold for $250 during the kickstarter campaign and there are not too many of them out there available for sale now. So we are up to $1150 and that is what I would sell the set for here on UC if someone here wanted it. If sold on eBay, (let me check where I have it listed.... Yep, on eBay), I have fees that have to be paid and shipping that also comes out of my pocket. So yeah, I think $1385 is a reasonable ask. If you think my logic is wrong, talk to me.

[Thedissident001]

Guys,

To clarify my own position, I have no objection to the asking price whatsoever.

My problem is that I already own most of the decks. This was the reason behind asking for the cases on their own - I knew the case would be expensive on its own, as it was expensive when first released as intimated by Spectre above.

I know that no-one is going to be prepared to bust up a set with the case if they own it, so I didn't bother asking Spectre about doing that. I have dealt with Spectre previously and have the utmost respect for him in the way he has conducted prior transactions. I asked about the cases on the off chance that someone had purchased an extra or two during the Kickstarter.

Regards,
Greg

[Adonael]

How much are you selling yours for?

Wow, talk about a ridiculous thing to say lol! Why would he be buying one if he already had it? Shaking my head over here, not the first time you've said something like that either, you need to know that it's not a valid point and just makes you look silly. Also, shipping is either included in the price or added separately, particularly with such a high priced item it is not coming out of your pocket at all, it's disingenuous to suggest as much.

[Bradius]

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Strag, you are right, this thread is derailed enough. Greg, good luck in your search for a box.

[Strag]

Let's be clear, it's not the OP who was complaining about the price, someone else decided to come into the thread and pass judgement and has derailed things nicely.

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[Magic Tapp]

Spectre has one up for sale with the full set of decks. You can also PM him here if you are interested.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Federal-52-Pla ... SwQ4RdlkVY

Man, talk about mark up. Sheesh.

Why in the world would you compare the current price tag with what it was sold for during the KS campaign? By the same token, you can complain that Van Goghs and Rembrandts are now worth times more that they originally sold for. The market is all about supply and demand and the decks are worth what one is willing to pay for them. I have recently purchased the Black Unbranded deck for US$250. Expensive - hell yes but still cheaper than all the other listings I have seen before.

Buying decks in the secondary market is in most cases more expensive but complaining about the market being what it is is pointless. If you do not like the price tag, move on and try to find what you are looking for elsewhere.

To my mind, Spectre’s listing is probably a tad high but only for around a 100 bucks or so (which, given that there are 10 decks and a box, is not that high).

[theCapraAegagrus]

I think Spectre's price is a little high, but guess what? He's free to ask it - and I'm free not to pay it.

My listing for the David Blaine Microsoft deck, years ago, was actually posted in the "eBay Listings Posted by People on Crack" thread. Guess what? It sold for 70% of my asking price. I showed those n00bs.

Good luck in your search. Collector's boxes, etc, were not as popular in 2014 as they are today. I've probably seen one hit the aftermarket without any decks included.

[Cardians]

My take on it is, so what. Let Spectre list whatever he wants at whatever price he decides.

Let say the Icons Black Reverse tuck had sold for $600 a week ago on eBay. Who is to say that Spectre doesn't have the right to sell his for $400 more then the recently sold price and ask for $1,000.

There's no playing card grading/value guide (until Lee Asher makes one) where you're able to reference a certain decks price like hockey cards or comic books.

Not one person can say that any deck isn't worth $600 or even a $1000 as it's only THEIR opinion and that's what it should be. Their opinion only...!

There's not one written rule that states you can only add 10% to the last sale price, for your sale/listing.

One collector may say, "Hey at $600 that was a steal for that deck" and another could argue the same about it being $1,000 or ague the other way and say $600 was way to much to begin with.

I have a gilded chancellor I want to sell and I believe the last one sold for $450-$500 eBay (i think). If I listed it at $550 after adding 10%, it doesn't mean that someone isn't thinking, "Wow, at $550 that's a good price for such a rare deck". They may even turn around and re-sell it at $850 because they feel it's worth more.

What gets me is, when the buyer says "well the last one sold for x amount of dollars." Yeah, well I'm not the last guy and just because it sold for x amount doesn't mean I have to sell mine, to you, for the previous x amount.

I think at the end of the day, if someone is willing to purchase a deck at $1,000 it's because they want it for their collection. As Mike said, if they decide to later turn around and sell it, maybe no-one will ever want to buy it at $1,000 or $1500 and you take a loss but that's all on the buyer/seller and the overall markets value at the time.

Playing cards right now are a hot item as you see Madison/Fontaines/Anyone/Cherry's/Jerry's/Lotrek/Stockholm way over priced for the rarer/never-to-be-reprinted again decks. If you want them, your going to pay. End of discussion Adonael.

And remember people, playing cards as a hobby will always be a hobby, but if you want to complete your sets of the rarer/hard-to-find decks it's going to cost you money. Plain and simple. Just because you bitch about a price being out of your price-range doesn't mean the more serious collector won't pay for such items at a premium.

Over & Out!

[Timmargh]

I agree TwoP-- er, I mean theCapraAegagrus:

... He's free to ask it - and I'm free not to pay it.

It's a (mostly) free world. Sure, it sucks if something you want is out of your reach, but life can and will suck sometimes.

[Mike2350]

End of discussion Adonael.

End of discussion? There's a thread on this very site that is dedicated to this very topic. So Adonael can't share his opinion? His prices are high. I don't think anyone who isn't lying would disagree. If he paid that much for them, well...sucks to be you I guess. I don't think the price is too far off considering the rarity and the fact that there are a few sets (just the decks) on eBay right now for close to $1,000. However, the market dictates what a deck is worth. How much someone is willing to pay on that particular day. If you price your items so high no one buys, that's your right, but it's also Adonael's right to basically put it in the "people on crack" thread. And the prices something sold for previously is a pretty good indicator of what someone is going to pay. That doesn't mean someone isn't willing to pay more, but it's a good baseline. I'd love to buy some of Spectre's decks, but I just can't afford it. I have bought and will continue to buy from him either way. If it's too much for me, then I just won't buy it. I'd freaking love to get that Imperial Reverse, but it ain't gonna happen.

Ok, back on topic. I believe the op is going to find it pretty tough to find those cases for all the reasons stated thus far. If you have to buy a set even if you already have all of the decks, then that might be exactly what you'll have to do if you want it badly enough. You can always sell the decks to recoup some of your money. I've been looking for a Fed52 Legacy deck. I know in my heart the odds of finding one are slim to none, and the odds of finding one for sale AND being able to afford it is practically zip. I'm also in the hunt for a Scarlett Tally-Ho Legacy deck. I may have a chance for that one. I could kick myself in the hind end for not buying the one that sold on eBay months ago. I think it went for around $350, and I would consider that a steal because I really want the deck.

Hahaha...so many decks, so broke. Why did I pick playing cards?? Biggest mistake of my life. I lost my business, my home, and my wife, but have a look at that deck collection!!

[Spectre]

Just going to poke my head in here and......

Mike2350,
I find is a bit ironic you mention the Fed52 Legacy deck in your post. It was a deck I too was desperately trying to find. Guess who I finally purchased mine from? Yep, Thedissidnet001. It also happens to be the reason I joined this site as someone that knew I was looking for one informed me that one was available here.

Anyway, I just thought that was a bit strange that that deck would be brought up in this post.

Good luck in your search.